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Life insurance vs. 529 plan
- 05-26-2011
May 26, 2011, 4:37 pm
I've just had a fascinating e-mail. A grandparent had mentioned
to a friend (who happens to sell insurance) that he was thinking
about starting up a 529 for his recently born grandchild, as he'd
done for his other two grandchildren.
The friend immediately told him "Oh, don't make *that* mistake!"
Instead, give your grandchild the "Gift of a Lifetime" - (that
seems to be what they're calling this use of their product) -
by buying the child a 10-pay permanent life insurance policy,
apparently a VUL policy. (Note - the policy is on the life
of the *child* and the owner of the policy is either intended
to be the child via UGMA or the parent of the child)
It's a fascinating idea. Since the child is so young, the
actual insurance costs are very very small. The illustration
given included making 10 annual payments of $10,000 each to
the policy, after which it'd be fully endowed and the death
benefit of as much as more than $1million (for the young girl
grandchild) (and well over $700,000 for the oldest grandson)
would be locked in for the child's lifetime. And, of course,
the cash value would be growing "tax-free" over that child's
lifetime as well.
The fact that the cash value of the policy is not considered
at all in federal financial aid formulas is interesting, too,
regardless of whether the policy is owned by the child (UGMA)
or the parent.
What hasn't really been discussed is what happens if the
grandfather only wants to make a one-time $10,000 gift,
not locking himself into $100,000 of gifts.
And, of course, given that the intention of the policy is
not to get the death benefit but rather to see the cash
value grow over a very long period of time, it'd be nice to
have seen more details of the actual *expenses* that get
taken out of the contributions. Naturally, the brief
illustration I saw included none of that. Nor, of course,
did it mention that pulling money out of the policy would
be tax-free only to the extent that it's either withdrawal
of contributions or loans (or, again, the death benefit).
As far as I can tell, the only real upside to this whole
thing is that by buying a life insurance policy on a young
healthy child, the child will never, to the extent that the
policy is enough insurance, worry about qualifying for
life insurance. And, if the money's never taken out, will
make for a massive capital base to either borrow from or
leave income-tax-free to heirs eventually (in, say, 90 years).
But it looks to me like a very poor way to fund college and
at best a mediocre way to create long-term savings.
529 still seems a better way for college (especially if in
one of the lowest-cost ones run by Vanguard or Fidelity and
direct-purchased), or - if the alternative is available -
just having grandfather keeps as much money as possible
(given RMDs and such) in his own IRA and/or especially Roth
IRAs.
Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts on this. Thanks
--
Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed.
Re: Life insurance vs. 529 plan
I agree. On this board, I'm convinced there are specific reasons for one
to fund permanent insurance. The above story you tell doesn't seem to
pass my common sense test. Invest $100K over 10 years and then borrow
all the cash out to pay for college? And as you said, the grandfather
never spoke about $100K just $10K. This sounds like all the stereotypes
of bad salesmen. When you sell hammers, you are trained to view every
problem as though it were a nail. It wouldn't surprise me if the seller
would offer the VUL to anyone who had any money saved for any purpose.
Call me paranoid, but I've watched enough detective shows to advise that
no one should be worth more dead than alive. When friends ask me to
share how much insurance I have, I tell them it's enough to put our
daughter through college, but not enough for my wife to quit working.
You have a great observation, Roth deposits could be great for this
purpose, no tax at all, and flexible if the kid doesn't go to college.
Re: Life insurance vs. 529 plan
Over the years "wonderful" applications of life insurance ultimately
have disappointed me to the point where I ignore them. In that regard
it is like the use of variable annuities as an investment.
Where life insurance can be useful is as a risk management tool (risk
of premature death). Beyond that I don't even debate it anymore. I
just tell clients who wish to "review" the latest reincarnation of
life insurance that I pass and suggest they do likewise. Been there,
done that.
Re: Life insurance vs. 529 plan
By the time the kid has reached retirement age, quite a few nasty
things could take place. The USA could be hopelessly in debt, as a lot
of people are predicting nowadays. The banks and insurance companies
could all be bankrupt. The USA could have entered another big, serious
war, and, unlike previous big wars, could have lost. There could have
been two or three financial meltdowns and maybe a great (or greater
than ever) depression or two. The whole financial and tax structure
could have been overhauled to the extent that present-day investments
don't mean much. Democracy could be gone, and there could be a
dictatorship in Washington. An asteroid could have hit the earth, and
half of humanity could be gone. Space aliens may have taken over. The
oceans may have risen and wiped out all the coastal cities. Our region
of the MIlky Way could be sucked into a Black Hole.
The probability of ALL or MOST of those things happening is extremely
small. However, the probability of AT LEAST ONE of the above happening
is not negligible. Planning that far ahead into the future, despite
the attractiveness of whatever financial product is considered, is a
huge risk.
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