Fact checking political ad regarding taxes

I just saw an obviously politically motivated ad about tax changes that went into effect on January 1, 2014. It was allegedly distributed by a known CPA firm in my area. I intentionally left out the parts of the ad that confirmed that it was a political statement since this is not a political forum, and I am not asking for anyone's political opinion on this topic.

But, I am curious about each of the 6 statements, and I am wondering if each one is correct and/or if there is more to each one such as that it only applies above a certain income level etc.

Again, I am only interested in knowing more about the accuracy and/or completeness of each of the 6 statements -- not whether the passage of the Affordable Care Act is/was a good idea or not, etc.

Thanks.

Here is what the political ad stated that was allegedly published by a known CPA firm in my area:

"Here is what happened on January 1, 2014:

1) Top Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35% 2) Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6% 3) Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2% 4) Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28% 5) Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6% 6) Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

These taxes were all passed under the Affordable Care Act."

Reply to
Jake29
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It wasn't the ACA that made these changes. It was the end of the Bush tax cuts. The tax cuts were renewed for 2 years in 2010, and made permanent in 2012 for singles making less than $400K and couples less than $450K. So the actual date that taxes went up was January 1, 2013, not 2014.

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If there was any relationship with the ACA, it's probably that repealing it was part of the debate over whether to renew the cuts.

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Barry Margolin

It's crapola other than the medicare tax going from 1.45% to 2.35% for high earners starting 1/1/13 not 1/1/14. The following link has a list with explanation of the various tax provisions (this includes credits as well) in the ACA:

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Alan

On Friday, October 31, 2014 6:50:04 AM UTC-7, Jake29 wrote: ...

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Well, one clue that there are income levels associated with this is that a lot of the items have the word "top" in them. Based on what I could find easily, here are the income-based effects. The numbers are for single/married-joint.

Earned income > $200k/$250k

Income > $400k/$450k

Not sure what this is counting.

This seems to have gone only from 15% to 23.8% Full rate applies to income > $400k/$450k.

I believe the qualified dividends tax only went from 15% to 23.8%. Full rate applies to income > $400k/$450k.

Non-qualified would have gone possibly from 35% to 42.8%

The estate tax was only 0% in 2010. That went back to the previous 35% in 2011 and increased to 40%. Tax only applies to estates worth more than $5.34 million.

As far as I can tell, the only provisions relating to the Affordable Care Act are the medicare surtax of 0.9% on earned income > $200k/$250k and a separate 3.8% tax on investment income if gross income > $200k/$250k (but only applies to the net investment income).

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taruss

Thanks Barry, Alan, and taruss for your replies -- all excellent information that answers what I was wondering.

I did later discover that I inadvertently thought that the ad was allegedly posted by a known local CPA firm, but it was actually a local CFP (Certified Financial Planner) firm that allegedly distributed the politically motivated message. However, the fact that a CFP would post misleading and incomplete information of this type would still be an issue for me.

I keep saying that it was "allegedly" posted by that firm because I have no way of knowing if whoever created and posted that crapola just placed a known CFP firm's name on it to make it look legitimate and appear as if it was coming from a reliable source.

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Jake29

Jake29 wrote: : In news:m303ms$lpu$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org, : Jake29 typed: : > I just saw an obviously politically motivated ad about tax changes : > that went into effect on January 1, 2014. It was allegedly : > distributed by a known CPA firm in my area. . . . , : > : > . . . , I am curious about each of the 6 statements, and I am wondering : > if each one is correct and/or if there is more to each one such as : > that it only applies above a certain income level etc. . . . ,

: Thanks Barry, Alan, and taruss for your replies -- all excellent information : that answers what I was wondering.

: I did later discover that I inadvertently thought that the ad was allegedly : posted by a known local CPA firm, but it was actually a local CFP (Certified : Financial Planner) firm that allegedly distributed the politically motivated : message. However, the fact that a CFP would post misleading and incomplete : information of this type would still be an issue for me.

: I keep saying that it was "allegedly" posted by that firm because I have no : way of knowing if whoever created and posted that crapola just placed a : known CFP firm's name on it to make it look legitimate and appear as if it : was coming from a reliable source. One would assume that the CFP firm had agreed to have its name used, or else whoever put up the ad would likely face a large law suit.

Wendy

Reply to
W. Baker

When I wrote that it was an obviously politically motivated ad, I probably should have clarified that it was distributed via email in one of those forwarded and re-forwarded emails. I don't know who created the original email, and maybe along the way someone just hijacked a CFP firm's logo and name from their website and pasted it in the email.

I also just tried doing a Google search of one phrase that was in the email (with the quotation marks) -- "If you think that it is important that everyone in the U.S. should know this, pass it on. If not, then delete t." -- and that produced a lot of hits/results.

One of the results is a Snopes link:

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Looks like this is a hoax-type false-information email that has been going around a lot.

Reply to
Jake29

But, I am curious about each of the 6 statements, and I am wondering if each one is correct and/or if there is more to each one such as that it only applies above a certain income level etc.

Again, I am only interested in knowing more about the accuracy and/or completeness of each of the 6 statements -- not whether the passage of the Affordable Care Act is/was a good idea or not, etc.

Thanks.

Here is what the political ad stated that was allegedly published by a known CPA firm in my area:

"Here is what happened on January 1, 2014:

1) Top Medicare tax went from 1.45% to 2.35% 2) Top Income tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6% 3) Top Income payroll tax went from 37.4% to 52.2% 4) Capital Gains tax went from 15% to 28% 5) Dividends tax went from 15% to 39.6% 6) Estate tax went from 0% to 55%

These taxes were all passed under the Affordable Care Act." =============All of those statements are false.

1) The top rate is 2.90% for portfolio income over $200k/$250k-married. 2) Not PPACA but Bush tax cut expiration. 3) WTF? No idea where this came from. 4) The top rate is 20% for non-collectables. Collectables always were 28%. Does not count #1 above, which may apply. 5) Proposed but never happened. 6) The top rate is 45%.
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D. Stussy

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