Quicken's New Subscription Model - Your Quicken Data Will Be Read-Only If You Don't Pay Up

It's also one of the most buggy and problematic with continual failures.

The pricing is out and works out to 3x the cost, full shutdown of usability with subscription lapse for the base version (read-only mode), and seeming ly no added functionality. I was a Quicken supporter. I am no longer a user after today and have moved to PersonalCapital.com - not ideal, but along t he right lines.

This part of your statement certainly appears to be false: "full shutdown of usability with subscription lapse for the base version (read-only mode)"

If you haven't already, you may want to review:

Hi Ken,

1. Like anything in software, the latest version gets the most attention, both in features and fixes
2. I want to support Quicken's development process.

I suspect these are "few and very m>>> That would be easy if there was a different program, there isn't, not

Just curious, why do you upgrade *every* year? Since there are usually very few and very minor changes each year, I usually upgrade only every second or third year.

Of course that my change in the future with the new owners. We'll see.

Ken, some people have more money than brains--that would explain why they upgrade QUicken every year, trade in their vehicle every year, etc..

supposed to be a bug free product.

Where did you see it advertised as a bug free product? BTW, for those who d> snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

a user is supposed to pay for bug fixes? They already paid for what was supposed to be a bug free product.

They advertise that it performs certain functions and has certain features. A bug means they failed to deliver as advertised.

Buyer should not have to pay twice.

features. A bug means they failed to deliver as advertised.

It can mean that, but not necessarily... See

for a dated but useful information on the topic: "It is likely that there are bugs in virtually all useful computer programs. This is because of (1) the huge number of lines of code required for such programs, (2) the complexity of programming and the consequent ease of making errors and (3) the difficulty of detecting some types of errors. For example, a modern operating system typically contains several million lines of code"

A good attitude to have is that when >>> a user is supposed to pay for bug fixes? They already paid for what was

They advertise that it performs certain functions and has certain features. A bug means they failed to deliver as advertised.

Buyer should not have to pay twice.

The ones who upgrade every year and the ones with more money than brains. No doubt, they also waste their money on bottled water, name-brand clothes, frequently trading in their vehicles. Little wonder so many file for bankruptcy.

Hey, if those dopes didn't upgrade every year, the price would have to go up for when we do upgrade.

Thanks for carrying the water, guys. Of course, maybe Q would stop adding all the silly features and stick to the core.

You are welcome! I upgrade every year because I like Quicken and I want to see what the new features are. For me, it is a combination of loyalty, curiosity, and play. I freely admit that this is an unwise use of my money.

Hooray for Quicken!

I have my own hobbies too, so no problem with yours. Enjoy.

Yowza!

Having been retired for over 20 years, I would still never do updates manually. There is nothing like having the daily downloads of 15 accounts ready to review while having breakfast coffee.

So if I continue with my Quicken 2016, when is the end-of-life for that version? Usually they kill the transaction downloads after a few years.

I upgraded to Quicken Deluxe 2017 a few months ago. I would like to know it's end-of-life date, too...

"Lyle Bickley" wrote

I upgraded to Quicken Deluxe 2017 a few months ago. I would like to know it's end-of-life date, too...

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Lyle Bickley wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

30 April, 2020

The product will still work after that date, and you can add transactions manually, generate reports etc, but the online features stop working.

Here's the full schedule

Thank you for the clarification; the new model is just like the old model with regard to being able to add transactions manually.

What Quicken services will be discontinued? The following services will be discontinued:

Online bill pay Downloading financial data from your bank, credit union, credit card, brokerage, 401(k) or mutual fund accounts Downloading stock quotes, news headlines and other financial information into Quicken Uploading portfolio information from Quicken to Quicken.com Live Support Software patches and updates

If I follow the link in the original post (about Q Canada 2017), and examine the "What happens when my Quicken subscription ends" section, I no longer see language about not being able to manually enter transactions.

So, the discussion headline is no longer accurate?