1031 Exchange

On a 1031 Exchange where a property is sold and the proceeds are invested in another property, am I correct that the acquired propery must be of equal or greater value of the property sold?

Example: Property A is sold for $X (net of selling costs) and its mortgage of $Y was paid off. Therefore, as long as Property B must cost $X or more for the transaction to be completely tax exempt?

Dick

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Dick Adams
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Keeping in mind that the taxpayer cannot touch the sales proceeds (an intermediary must be used), to defer all the gain on the property given up, the acquisition cost of the new property must equal or exceed the sales proceeds of the old property.

If $Y is a part of $X, yes. (If $Y is in addition to $X, then the new property must cost $X + $Y for all the gain to be deferred.)

Regards, Bill

Reply to
Bill Brown

Based on those facts, that's not a 1031 exchange.

Reply to
D. Stussy

Thanks, Bill. That is what I thought.

Are there specific qualifications for who can be the intermediary?

Dick

Reply to
Dick Adams

I knew it! Let's quibble!

In fact, based on those facts, it might very well be a 1031 exchange.

and to think I was about to post a compliment to this group, grateful to have gotten beyond its sins of the past where any use of the term "sold" would immediately be pounced on as not being a 1031 exchange.

Reply to
Gil Faver

I was under the impression that pretty much anyone could serve as the Qualified Intermediary, but you would want someone who could make sure all the paperwork is done right. So maybe your buddy is not the best choice. In addition to the standard (and not to be trivialized) "make sure they have lots of experience" and "make sure they are bonded and/or insured", I noted these limitations, which sort of surprised me:

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Anyone who is related to the taxpayer, or who has had a financial relationship with them within the two years prior to the close of escrow of the exchange can not be used as the QI. This means that the taxpayer cannot use their current attorney, certified public accountant or real estate agent. A corporation or other entity to act as Qualified Intermediary owned by your CPA, CPA firm, real estate agent or attorney is likewise disqualified.

Reply to
Gil Faver

"Gil Faver"

Without indicating that there's an accomodator (or middleman - for a multi-way exchange), a sale followed by a purchase isn't an exchange. Otherwise, a sale does not constitute an exchange. If there's a sale, there's no exchange - by definition.

Reply to
D. Stussy

For purposes of discussion, it was already a given by the OP that it was indeed a 1031 exchange. He wasn't asking if the transaction qualified as a 1031 exchange, he was asking about one of the many rules that apply to deferring some or all of the taxable gain from such a transaction.

-Mark Bole

Reply to
Mark Bole

The intermediary can have no other business relationship with the taxpayer. That omits the taxpayer's accountant, banker, insurance agent, etc. There are firms that exist to serve as accomodaters on

1031 exchanges.

Regards, Bill

Reply to
Bill Brown

on the contrary, it is impossible to have a 1031 exchange WITHOUT a sale.

Reply to
Gil Faver

I give you property A and you give me property B. A and B are approximately the same value, so no "boot."

That's an exchange and nothing was sold.

Reply to
D. Stussy

In tax law, "sale" and "exchange" have different definitions. For IRC Section 1031 to apply, the transaction has to be an "exchange" from the taxpayer's point of view. If it is a "sale," then the taxpayer cannot use Section 1031 to defer recognition of gain.

Folks who cannot cope with specific, legal definitions existing for tax terms that have slightly (or significantly) different meanings in general usage should find another line of work. Although I sometimes do the same thing Dick did in the first post (use with its general meaning a term that has a different tax meaning) it's sloppy and leads to time wasting exchanges such as the one between Stussy and Faver.

Reply to
Bill Brown

yes, but that is not a 1031 "exchange". in a 1031 exchange, the qualified intermediary SELLS the relinquished property.

Reply to
Gil Faver

Reply to
Gil Faver

"Gil Faver"

of course, I am wrong here. Lack of sleep allowed me to forget that there are not separate code sections for simultaneous and delayed exchanges; they are both covered under section 1031.

Mark Bole: your posts have been spot on. I feel no need to comment further.

Reply to
Gil Faver

"Gil Faver"

I suggest that you read section 1031 for yourself. There is NO REQUIREMENT to use an intermediary.

Where are you getting that from?

Reply to
D. Stussy

The last time I checked, this was technically not the case. The replacement property can be worth less. If it is, however, the excess is taxable.

Stu

Reply to
Stuart Bronstein

That would be, technically, why I said, "to defer all the gain."

Reply to
Bill Brown

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