COD income exclusion and Roth IRA

Feb 25, 2010 2 Replies

Well, while I was on my weekly cross-country ski trip this morning, I was thinking about the several tax returns I've done in the past couple of years with cancelation of debt income excluded because of insolvency. While none of these had the situation I now describe, I can easily envision it happening.



Suppose a taxpayer has a Roth IRA with, say, a balance of $11,000 at the end of 2009, and excluded cancelation of debt income sufficient that all tax attributes have to be reduced to zero. The question I pose is: does the basis of the Roth IRA need to be reduced along with other tax attributes? And if so, when do distributions from the Roth IRA become taxable because of the reduction in basis. I think that it's likely the basis is reduced.



Let's suppose that a couple of years from now the Roth IRA balance is $22,000, and the taxpayer takes a distribution of half of it. I can see three possible tax scenarios: (1) The distribution is fully taxable because the reduction of basis is treated like depreciation, and recaptured first, as would be the case in an installment sale. (2) The distribution is 50% taxable, because it is apportioned between the zero-basis amount and the full-basis amount in the Roth IRA, similar to the allocation of distributions from a traditional IRA with non-deductible contributions. (3) The distribution is not taxable, because the zero-basis portion is the last portion of the Roth IRA to be distributed, similar to the way distributions in excess of basis are treated in partnerships and S corporations.



My initial conclusion is that the zero-basis portion is recovered first, resulting in the earliest taxation of the IRA. What do you think?


I think that you missed the point that it's statutorily not taxable when the account's conditions are met (5 year hold, after age 59.5 or other exception, etc.) and there's no provision in the tax code to adjust or ignore that for insolvency. Although one can say that its "basis" is the sum of conversions and contributions, is it really a "tax attribute" subject to adjustment?

I think possibly so, since the TP can accelerate their insolvency by paying the up-front tax on the Roth, a voluntary tax payment that they did not have to make, when they could have used the money to pay their debts.

However a court would have to conclude this, because it's not in the code. Perhaps an analogy would be pre-paying property tax when facing insolvency. Or any other situation in which the service would want to unwind or disallow recent transactions that helped plummet the TP towards insolvency while providing a future advantage to the TP. ("Recent" being maybe a window of a few years.)

If it's a long-ago Roth that the TP legitimately paid the tax on while still in good financial condition, I do not expect the sevice could touch it.

Steve

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