Help! Defer or pay it ?

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Hi. My husband has a full-time job, but on top of that, he also had $40,000 in side money last year on books he wrote. I am a freelance writer and student and made $8000.

We did not see an accountant this year because we were naive and dumb. Last night, we did our taxes and realized that we owe $17,000 ($3000 state and $13000 federal).

Obviously, it's too late to see an accountant. So we need to decide what the best thing to do at this point. Should we:

A. pay the $17000, and then see an accountant and see if we could get some of that money back after the fact?

B. File a deferrment and then see an accountant before paying?

C. Something else I haven't thought of?

Also, this may be a naive question, but how much money can a CPA really save you? My husband works with numbers and we're fairly sure we did our taxes correctly. I would hate to have to pay $17000 PLUS the CPA.

Any advice you could send our way would be gretly appreciated.

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Reply to
Thalia
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File the "deferment" AND pay.

Send in form 4868 to the IRS and the equivalent to your state. Send the checks with the forms (if you can). You then will have time to send in the actual tax forms as they are, or after an accountant improves things to get a refund.

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I don't know, for sure, but since you both have businesses, I suspect that the accountant will be very helpful.

Reply to
DF2

You should request an extension, Form 4868 (Federal) and the equivalent state form and pay the estimated tax due. Then go see an TAX accountant. I have to say that accountants are thought of as "numbers" people but that this is really a misconception. True, accountants work with numbers but they are not mathematicians. What makes Tax Accountants qualified to help in situations like this is their knowledge of tax law, rules, and regulations. A truly qualified tax professional will have spent years studying tax matters and had years of experience dealing with a wide variety of situations. You would have to spend a lot of time reading tax materials to acquire an equivalent knowledge. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans

Reply to
L K Williams

Pay it straight out, as you have calculated it (check your figures). If you pay up now, you stop the clock as far as pentalies that might occur. You never know, and the IRS does "the best it can" (in thses Bush II years). Usually, they produce a credible bill.. Anyway, you can quibble with them on it next summer. The only thing in additional work you could do right now is to compute the penalites that are possible to occur. That's also the only benefit of a tax accountant at this point. Figuring their fees these days (approaching those of lawers), I personally take my chances with the IRS (whose ssalry I have already contributred to). Angelo Campanella

Reply to
Angelo Campanella

The "deferment" (actually, an extension) is only for the filing of your tax return, not the payment of tax.

Last year would have been a much better time to seek out a tax professional. He/she could have recommended setting up a retirement plan for the $40,000. You may have to prepare Form 2210 to see if you owe underpayment penalties (again, another thing that proper planning would help you avoid).

Preparing a tax return is the easy part. Good tax PLANNING is what sets the pros apart from the amateurs.

Tax planning and preparation of tax returns isn't rocket science, but then neither is dentistry. Do you drill and fill your own cavities?

Gary

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Reply to
Gary Goodman

I disagree with that statement. The OP stated that the "other" income was from books that he/she wrote and other sources. Without detailed knowledge about all of that income, one cannot say whether they would be eligible for deductions for expenses incurred to generate that income or subject to an additional SE tax. The OP is clearly not knowledgeable enough about tax laws to do it herself.

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Ernie Klein

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