How is TurboTax calculating depreciation?

I'm working on back taxes for a client and I have their 2010, 2011 and 2012 returns. They rent a townhouse on Schedule E and the depreciation is listed as follows:

Cost (net of land): 169,518 Land: 126,500 Business Use %: 100 Depreciable Basis: 169,518 Life: 27.5 Method/Convention: SL/MM Prior Depreciation: 81,310 Current Depreciation: 10,429

I input the cost info, etc. into our system (ProSystem fx) and current depreciation calculates as $6,164.

I have no idea how TT is arriving at $10,429. Then, all of a sudden, the 2012 return shows $12,968.

At first I thought maybe it was including the land in the calculation but I come up with $10,764.

Thanks, Mike

Reply to
Mike20878
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169518/27.5 = 6,164.290909090909

So 6164 looks correct. I have no idea about why TT does that.

Reply to
remove ps

This is a simple calculation. I have a rental, and the depreciation looks right, 1/27.5th of the non-land value. I'm guessing user input error, no offense.

Reply to
JoeTaxpayer

are there depreciable items other than the house as a whole? Like maybe at some point new appliances or windows were put in with a different life?

Reply to
Pico Rico

I haven't use TT in over 15 years, so I can't say if this info is still current. But at one time, if the PRIOR accumulated depreciation number appeared too low, they would include a "make up" calculation that added a pro rated portion of the shortage to the CURRENT amount. That sort of makes sense, but I'm not sure it is truly an allowable method for tax purposes (I believe there is a Rev Proc that explains how to correct for prior year depreciation errors).

So I suppose I would check the accumulated depreciation amount to see if it appears correct, etc.

MTW

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MTW

In another forum where the OP posted the same question, he posted the following additional information this morning.

"I spoke to the client this morning and it gets pretty complicated. Apparently they put the basement into service in '91, rented the entire house starting in '95, moved back in '04, then started renting it again mid-2007. Apparently TT took the remaining basis over the remaining ~10 years. Unfortunately, TT Online doesn't show any detail on the calculation. And for some reason, the back returns don't show a depreciation schedule when you download the PDF copies."

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Reply to
Bob Sandler

ok, never mind TT for this: how do you handle a rental, return to personal use, then return to rental. How do you handle the depreciation on the second turning to rental use? Take the adjusted basis and start at 27.5 years again?

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Pico Rico

"Pico Rico" wrote

Start depreciation, stop depreciation, resume depreciation. I would NOT restart the 27.5 year clock with the return of the property to rental use.

Reply to
paulthomascpa

so you ultimately get the full 27.5 years of depreciation, assuming it is a rental for that total period of time?

How about a vacation home that you prorate the depreciation based on partial personal use? Can you ultimately get ALL the depreciation over a period longer than 27.5 years?

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Pico Rico

So basically, you still have the same basis (assuming no decrease in FMV below) and A/D that you continue to depreciate. I wouldn't necessarily say that the clock doesn't restart, just that you still use a 27.5 yr life. Basic SL rules should still apply, in this case taking $6164 per year. I don't believe TT was correct to pick up again at the next in-service date and take the remaining ~10 years. The fault may have been in using the original in-service date again, whereas maybe he should have used the 2007 date.

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Mike20878

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