Rental income received in advance

My neighbor bought a rental property in Nov, 2009. Rental agreement with the tenant was sighed on Dec. 2009. The start date of rental agreement is Feb1, 2010. My neighbor received 6 months advance rent in December. I was wondering whether the rental income should be shown in

2009 or 2010? I told my neighbor since the use and occupation of property is in year 2010, the advance rent should be reflected in 2010, it makes since to reflect it in 2010. Did I give him the right answer?
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taxmax
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If your neighbor is a cash basis taxpayer then the rental income belongs in 2009. This is based on the rules of constructive receipt.

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removeps-groups

Although my neighbor is a cash basis taxpayer and the tenant will not get the possession ion of the property until Feb 2010 and has not moved in 2009, the payment is just an advance payment and should be treated like security deposit in 2009. What do you think???

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taxmax

Seems to me the alternative would be to treat the advance as a loan until it is actually earned. So the question is, under the lease does the landlord have the right to keep the money if the tenant doesn't actually use the place? Or could the tenant change his mind until he actually took possession?

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Stuart A. Bronstein

Stu, I agree with you. I had a chance to read the rental agrement. It says that if landlord is unable to deliver the possession upon the Commencement Date, the tenant can terminate the lease agreement. Hypothetically lot of things could have happened between receiving the advanced rent (Dec 2009) and Commencement of the lease ( Feb 1, 2010). Luckily nothing happened. I guess treating the advanced rent as a loan is justifiable.

Thanks for your input. Toubi

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taxmax

In this case it appears that the payment was contingent and as a result not yet earned. As such I'd argue that it's not taxable until the contingencies are removed.

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Stuart A. Bronstein

Can this recharacterization (of rent received as a loan) be done after the fact, and does it hold up in a court of law?

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removeps-groups

I don't buy it for a minute.

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Reggie

It wouldn't be an actual loan, and probably can't be recharacterized after the fact. But based on whether or not the landlord actually earned it yet (e.g. subject to contingencies that have a significant chance of taking place). If the tenant has a realistic chance of cancelling the lease before taking possession, it seems to me that the landlord hasn't earned it yet, and so is not taxable on it.

For example a life insurance salesman sells a policy. He is given a commission that is not only based on the initial premium, but on expected payments over a period of time. The sales agent quits his job and the purchaser of the policy stops paying. Some of what the agent received is not earned and he has to give it back. So he shouldn't be taxed on the portion that he had to give back because it wasn't actually earned when it was received.

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Stuart A. Bronstein

I'd say it's a deposit, not a loan. The characterization depends on the words in the lease, which was signed before the money was transferred.

Seth

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Seth

Under that argument, no advance rent would be taxable when received, and that's directly contradictory to the TR.

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D. Stussy

Deposit is income too. The remaining payment is the full price minus the deposit -- the full price is income at the end of the day.

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removeps-groups

When the life insurance salesman receives his commission, he reports the entire commission in the year received? I'm assuming this is the case as this is what common sense tells me, though maybe the income would be different if the salesman was on the accrual accounting method. So in the year he quits and the client stops making payments, he pays back part of his commission. He would then claim the amount as negative income on his Schedule C. Or if he is paid as an employee, his W2 income would be reduced by the payback. Or if he paid in a year after he quit, he would file a claim of right to get the money back.

So my description above is correct, and it applies to rent: Then advance rent/commission would be income, should it be paid back in a following year it will be negative income on Schedule E/A.

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removeps-groups

Untrue. Advance rent, if earned (e.g. there is a lease that requires it and there is no substantial grounds for forfieture) would still be taxable when received under my theory. It's onlyl when there is a substantial chance that the money will have to be repaid that, seems to me, it would not be considered income when paid.

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Stuart A. Bronstein

Then I assume you're using Form 8275-R for all your advance rent cases....

Reply to
D. Stussy

The fact that the lease says you don't have to pay rent if the property is not delivered is not likely the type of contingency that means the rent is not taxable as current income. Unless there is some special circumstances, like the landlord is trying to buy out the remainder of a prior tenant's lease, which is wholly up to the discretion of the prior tenant. I think this is a run of the mill lease, and the advance payments are income in the year received.

What does the lease say? Specifically.

Reply to
Wallace

circumstances,

Doesn't matter. The Treasury Regulation controls. Advanced Rent is taxable when received, period.

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D. Stussy

I agree with you on this one. But, if the lease says this advance payment is something other than rent, we should consider what it says. Of course, it doesn't. So, what does the lease say? That this is rent, which happens to be paid in advance, either because it is required by the lease to be paid in advance, or for the convenience of the tenant. Either way, if it is rent, it is rent.

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Wallace

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