Transfer of 457 Account

Sep 14, 2008 5 Replies

Husband and wife are getting a legal separation. He is 59, she turned



55 in 2008. He retired two years ago from New York State and has a balance of a couple hundred thousand dollars in his 457 account.

As part of the agreement, she will get one-half of his account balance. What are the tax and penalty implication of this transfer? She has not worked in recent years, but has an IRA account.



Does this transfer need to be wholly rolled over to this IRA to avoid taxes and penalties?



If she takes part of the transfer in cash and part as a rollover to her IRA, presumably the cash portion is taxable income. Is there also a 10% penalty on this portion?



If she rolls over the entire amount to her IRA and later withdraws some of those funds, will there be penalties? Once the funds are in her IRA, does she need to wait to age 59.5 to avoid penalties?


"R. Pile" wrote

If done wrong, the husband gets stiffed with the tax bill.

So, talk to the husband's attorney and get a QDRO - Qualified Domestic Relations Order. They'll know what you're talking about, and if not, find another attorney who does.

The QDRO splits the pension with no current tax implications. What she does with it after that is her call.

She needs to talk to her legal and tax advisors.

He needs to do the same.

The U.S. Supreme Court has a case, "Kennedy v. Plan Administrator for Dupont Savings and Investment Plan," scheduled for argument on its fall docket. The issues at controversy in the Kennedy case are not precisely on point with your question but they do validate Paul Thomas' advice about making certain your arrangement is crafted carefully and follows legal requirements.

You can read a synopsis of the Kennedy case on the second page of the link pasted below.

See: "Qualified Plan Queries: Supreme Court to Examine QDROs as the Only Waiver to Retirement Benefits"

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About how much does it cost?

To add to Paul's reply: It is important that the QDRO not only comply with federal law but it must also comply with state law. Every state that has a 457 plan will have a statute on the books and corresponding rules and regulations for their 457 plan. Buried in those rules & regulations will be the requirements for a valid QDRO.

To talk to an attorney? Probably cheaper than the tax on the distributed amount if it's done wrong.

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