Agriculture payments

I am a retired individual receiving Social Security payments and who in

2010 has received payments from the Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) program and the Environmental Quality Incentives (EQIP)Program for activities performed on our treefarm.

It appears that the CRP income is not subject to self employment tax, but the EQIP income is subject.

As both of these programs have common focus, it is not clear why the income is treated differently.

Do I understand the rule correctly?

Thanks

Reply to
DLC
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My best guess is that the payments you are receiving under CRP are for rent and not cost sharing. As such, the income goes on Schedule E. If it was for cost sharing, then the income would go on Schedule F which would be subject to SE tax. The payments under EQIP are for foregone income less foregone costs for conservation practices. As it relates to running a "farm" it goes on Schedule F.

Reply to
Alan

I think so...we have CRP but not EQIP so can't speak for it.

On CRP, the initial Act designated that payments were "rent" but the IRS decided to not agree and decreed it counted as SE income. Jerry Moran and some other ag states introduced and got thru legislation a few years ago that decreed unambiguously that CRP is not SE income. I don't know that EQIP made it; probably owing to the smaller enrollment base.

I'm on FSA County Committee; I'll see what I can find out in the AM; I'm sorta' presuming not many of the regulars here deal with many farm operations.

Reply to
dpb

To expand my question:

The CRP consists of: rent 10% cost sharing of tree planting expenses 50% project incentive 40%.

These all were on the same 1099-G

The EQIP was for removing grapevines from a portion of our woodland.

I haven't received a 1099-G yet for this.

Thanks

Reply to
DLC

Everything sounds like it goes on Schedule F except for the rent.

Reply to
Alan

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There are at least some conditions under which part or all of the cost-share payments are deductible; your situation is different than ours out here in the High Plains w/ CRP and no forest ground so I can only suggest reading Pub 225 carefully and talk to both a local tax preparer experienced in farm tax issues as well as w/ the local FSA office--they're not tax experts per se, of course, and can't give actual tax advice but they should certainly have enough experience w/ the local conditions and program participation to understand the basic mechanics for your area as well as know who are knowledgeable locals.

It still says CRP goes on F line 6; having retired and all our ground is in continuous CRP, I report on 4835 instead of filing a Form F.

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dpb

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