Depreciation when personal-business use ratio changes

Lets say on the first year you place something in service it is used

75% for business (and 25% personal use). The next year it is used 100% for business. Do you just continue the depreciation as if it is being used 75% for business, or do you place in service the remaining 25% and depreciate it as a second item?
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The way that makes sense to me is: Calculate the depreciation schedule if 100% use. For example if 3 year property, SL, and cost price is $6, depreciation is 1, 2, 2, 1. So first year it is 75% of $1 or $0.75; next year it is 100% of $2; etc. Then again, if you used section 179 the first year you only wrote of 75% of the asset, whereas if you change the percentage every year you can take more.

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Here's what I'm having trouble with. Let's say we have 3 year property, SL, and a $100 basis.

In case one, business use is 75% for the first year, 100% business for year two.

1st year depreciation = (0.75)($100)(0.1) = $7.5; remaining basis $92.5 2nd year depreciation = ($92.5)(0.2) = $18.5

For case two use 100% business use for all years.

1st depreciation = ($100)(0.1) = $10 ; remaining basis = $90. 2nd year depreciation = ($90)(0.20) = $18.

Second year depreciation is greater in the first case then in the second case. In a sense the 25% non-business portion was converted to business use in the second year. But this conversion does not involve using lesser of the FMV or cost.

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ds

Minor point, where did 0.1 for first year come from? Under SL it should be 1/6 or 0.166666.

OK, let's suppose it is 0.1. Here's my way of thinking of it, based just on common sense, and not any pubs:

The first year total depreciation is ($100)(0.1) = $10, remaining basis is $90. Of the $10, $2.50 is personal use depreciation and is not deductible, and $7.50 is business use depreciation and is deductible. Or try this way: The asset is $100 is comprised of two assets -- a $75 business part and $25 personal part. The personal part has no depreciation. The business part has depreciation of ($75) (0.1)=$7.50. The remaining basis of the business part is 75-7.50$67.50.

Suppose you then sell the item for $80. Well, you're selling the business part for $60 and personal part for $20. You have to recapture $7.50 (depreciation actually taken), and you have a business gain of 60-67.50 or a business loss on form 4797 of $7.50. I think the recaptured depreciation of $7.50 may cancel out the loss, but maybe the capital loss of $7.50 is taxed at 15% and the recaptured gain taxed at 25% -- would need to look at form 4797.

And if you didn't dispose of them item the second year total depreciation would be ($100)(0.2)=$20. Since the business use depreciation is 100% all of the $20 is deductible.

Now you sell the asset for $40. Can you figure out how to figure out the depreciation to recapture and capital gain?

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I guess I multiplied 3 times 2 and got 10. (I should have said 5 year SL)

This is were my misunderstanding was - feeling stupid. Thanks.

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Depreciation is straightforward. I think the real difficulty is how to figure out the cost basis for the purpose of filling out form 4797 when the business use ratio changes each year.

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