How to calculate modified adjusted gross income

We are trying to determine the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) for IRA deductibility. We have a 401K plan, so the status is "limit if covered by employer plan". Per worksheet 1-1 on page 15 of Pub 590 (IRA Arrangements), the MAGI calculation is shown below: Take your Adjusted Gross Income on Line 38 and add back in:

IRA deduction.

Student loan interest.

Tuition and fees deduction.

Foreign earned income exclusion.

Foreign houseing exclusion or deduction.

Exclusion of quialified savings bond interest shown on Form 8815 -

Exclusion of Interest From Series EE and I U. S. Savings Bonds Issued

After 1989 (For Filers With Qualified Higher Education Expenses).

Exclusion of employer-provided adoption benefits shown of Form 8839 -

Qualified Adoption Expenses.

On line 17 of the 1040 form, we have rental loss from Schedule E. This is considered as passive activity. It is included in the AGI on line 38. On page 8 of Pub 590 under the section "what is not compensation" for purpose of IRA, it says compensation does not include earnings and profits from property, such as rental income. So for the same logic, it would seem rental loss should not be included in MAGI. If we include the rental loss, the MAGI would be below the threshold and IRA is deductible. If we exclude the rental loss, the MAGI would be above the threshold and not deductible. The worksheet 1-1 per above does not have an line item for that adjustment. Turbotax accepts the rental loss as part of the MAGI, which I am not sure whether it is correct (beacuse page 8 of Pub 590 says rental income is not compensation for IRA purpose). Can you give me some input as whether rental loss should be included or exclued from MAGI? We appreicate your help.

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Puzzled
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And AGI is the starting point for calculating MAGI.

Totally irrelevant to MAGI. That part of the pub is talking about compensation on which you can base IRA contributions. You're mixing apples and hand grenades.

-- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD

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Phil Marti

MAGI is a poster child for unnecessary complexity in tax laws. The best way to deal with it is to purchase high end tax prep software & let it do the calculations. Trying to do it by hand borders on insanity.

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Benjamin Yazersky CPA

You are mixing up two different things. MAGI does include the rental loss, as Turbotax tells you. When Pub 590 is talking about rental income as compensation for IRA purposes, what it means is that in order to be able to contribute to an IRA, you have to have earned income. That is either from Line 7 wages or net income from self- employment (or alimony), not rental income. It has nothing to do with calculating MAGI. Dennis

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bono9763

Thank you all for your replies. We ran TurboTax with the IRA contribution. The entire contribution shows as IRA deduction on line 32 of 1040, so the software includes the rental loss as part of the MAGI and our IRA contribution is fully deductible. Based on your replies and TurboTax, we can include the rental loss in our MAGI for IRA deductibility calculation. Please let us know if we mis- interpreted your comments. We appreciate your help again.

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Puzzled

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