taking early pension vs. letting it wait

male,62 on February 28, 2008; has ability to take the pension he earned from a defined pension plan.. should he take lump sum, discounted so wife would get a share after his death, or just wait til full retirement. male is working full time, will not take early retirement, and is making

115,00.00 per year...has a 401 with present employer and Roth account for himself and spouse. Wife is not employed, has no income and will not receive any social security as she was never employed and is age 65. Need to know if this money would just be categorized as ordinary income and added to taxable income for the years once he takes it...or is there a way to take this and shelter it in a fund etc. to protect it while it earns.

Any suggestions?

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jtamchay
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Is lump sum your only choice, or could you take regular monthly payouts? If the latter, are they indexed for inflation?

If you die, or get divorced after ten or more years of marriage, she will get SS based on your earnings record.

Presumably she owns some of your marital property, and is the heir or beneficiary of the rest, so she should be well provided for even without any spousal pension.

Yes, assuming you never contributed after-tax dollars. I am not aware of any way to avoid tax on this money, but of course it's better to have money and pay tax on it than not have it.

Protect it from what? Inflation? Lawsuits? Loss of capital due to poor investments? Taxes?

Ordinary stocks and bonds (capital assets), annuities, long term care insurance, gifts, college aid for descendants, tax-exempt bonds, rental or investment real estate -- any or all of these might be good places to park your money for the long haul. Or, perhaps your wife would like to start a business or income-producing hobby and could use some start-up cash?

-Mark Bole

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Mark Bole

A lump sum present value payour from a defined benefit plan should be eligable for a rollover to an IRA. If so, no taxes are due, and you have flexibility for withdrawals, and potential for my favorite tax planning strategy, the timed, paced Roth conversion.

The one risk and one warning is the transfer should be made into an IRA waiting to receive it, and done as a direct rollover. The check I received was made payable directly to my broker, "Charles Schwab for futher deposit into the acccount of JoeTaxpayer". This way, there is no risk of running afoul of any rollover rules, and having the money become fully taxable. Of course, you then need to decide how to actually invest these funds, but that was not the OP's question, so i won't go there.

JOE

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