How Much State Pension?

Please could someone advise on the following?

The present full basic State Pension is £87.30 per week for a single person and £139.60 per week for a couple.

A woman qualifies for her £87.30 at the age of 60. A man qualifies for his £87.30 at the age of 65. [If a man and his wife are the same age, the wife can therefore take her pension five years before her husband.]

If the wife has not paid sufficient NI contributions to qualify for any pension at all, she will still get a pension of £52.30 when her husband reaches 65 (provided by her husband's NI contributions). This, added to the husband's £87.30, gives the married couple's pension of £139.60.

My first question is about what happens if the wife has been receiving her £87.30 since she was 60. When her husband reaches 65, will they receive the married couples' pension of £139.60, or will they each receive £87.30 in their own right (a total of £174.60).

A second (similar) question is about what happens if the wife didn't make sufficient NI contributions for a full pension, but has been receiving a reduced pension of (say) £60. When her husband reaches 65, will they then receive the married couple's pension of £139.60, or will they receive the somewhat higher sum of £87.30 + £60 (a total of £147.60)?

Essentially, whatever their individual entitlements are, will they get whatever is the higher amount? Or will they be penalised when the couples' pension is less than the sum of their own pensions?

Reply to
Ian Jackson
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My understanding is that they will each get what they are entitled to based on their own contributions - up to a maximum of two single pensions (plus any relevant earnings-related additions, of course). However, if the wife is entitled to less than 52.30 (being the difference between the single and married pensions) her pension will be made up to 52.30 as soon as the husband qualifies for his pension. That's what happened to us, anyway!

Reply to
Roger Mills

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...

Yes.

No.

See

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but be aware the rules have changed if you reach state pension age after April 2010, in particular you only need 30 years for a full pension, HRP counts as credits and there is no minimum.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

In message , Andy Pandy writes

Thanks for the link. I've tried to read that document several times in the past. Unfortunately, I find information, written like this, essentially incomprehensible. [It would be interesting to count the number of times the word 'if' appears!] Thank heavens that these people don't write the maintenance manuals for aircraft or nuclear power stations.

However, it does seem to indicate that a couple will get either their minimum entitlements OR their individual entitlements, it these are greater. It would have been grossly unfair if it had been otherwise.

Reply to
Ian Jackson

In message , Roger Mills writes

Thanks for confirming what I had hoped would be the case. It would be nice to see the pension information expressed as succinctly as you have above. It's funny how none of the documentation seems to be able to describe such situations. They must be fairly common.

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Ian Jackson

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