Advice on IFA

Dec 09, 2003 3 Replies

I seem have landed myself in an ongoing dispute with my IFA. Basically it is all to do with the commission he earns from recommending the products he has sold me.



A few years back, when we first met, I took out a pension, a combined PHI/Critical Illness/Life Assurance policy and a savings policy. [He earned a lot of commission out of me!!!] I believe the full commission on these would have been only fully earned after 4 years. In his contract he states that if you cancel a policy and he gets asked for the commission back, he reserves the right to in turn ask for the same amount back from you.



About two years after this I got a new job and which offered me a company pension and a level of PHI, so I asked his advice. He said that I shouldn't pay out for things twice and suggested I cancel the pension and PHI. A week or so later a letter dropped through my door from him stating that he was fully within his rights to ask for this lost commission back. I was quite upset as I had acted in good faith, but agreed that I would try to put him in touch with new work if possible. Indeed I introduced him to a couple of people, one of whom later went on to do some business with him.



About this same time he also recommended that I took out a State Holder pension (due to lower charges than my old one and basically used to "top-up" my company pension) and also recommended that I ditched my current Critical Illness/Life Assurance in favour of another due to it's better long term pricing structure. Both of which I did. Because he had handled the cancelling of policies before I assumed he had cancelled the old as he had certainly set up the new. The new policy also was sold to me as being very flexible in that I could change the insured amounts if I wished, among other things.



Another year or so on from then, I noticed that he hadn't cancelled the original policy as I had first thought so had been paying out a lot of money unnecessarily. I then cancelled this policy and due to circumstances changing again, I wanted to change the amounts on the new Life Assurance/Critical Illness policy down to about a 1/3 of what they were. I thought this would be fine since it was a "flexible" policy and the terms of his conditions only kicked in when a policy was cancelled, not amended. He is now stating otherwise.



I have totally lost all confidence in him now and plan to do no further business with him. The problem is he is now asking for these sums back, or that I recommend further people to him. This troubles my conscience, as I could not recommend someone that I thought was not doing their job very well!!



What can I do? I don't wish to pay him a penny of his "commission" since I feel he has earned a lot out of me already, and really I haven't done anything wrong. The first time round, he advised me to cancel the policies and the second time I changed the insured amounts on a policy that was sold to me as being "flexible". Also his terms of business only state that commission is repayable when it is cancelled [ie, not amended]. Also I don't wish to recommend him to people, as after all this, I don't feel he is very good at his job.



Any people out there got any advice or been in similar situations? Also how long can he legitimately hold these threats over me for? If he waits a year, decides that I haven't recommended enough people to him and then asks for it back, is he entitled to it?


I don't know if this is significant, but did you sign a contract with him for his services? If so then what does/did it say? If not, then I think I'd get some legal advice.

You could try posting on uk.legal, or even try calling a solicitor out of the phone book - they might give you a simple yes or no as to whether you are obliged to pay, although I think these days many won't have any conversation about anything legal unless the meter's ticking.

JJ

His terms of business state:

"If we arrange a policy for you and do not charge a fee for our services, we will receive commission from the policy provider. If you subsequently cease to pay premiums on the policy and in consequence we are obliged to refund the commission, we reserve the right to charge a fee equivalent to the amount of commission reclaimed by the policy provider. If we recommend to you any policy to which this clause applies, we will at the same time inform you in writing the maximum of any such fee and the latest time at which we would charge it."

and the policy recommendation states,

"...I recommend [company name] as they meet your requirements to insure with a well respected company, with good financial strength and competitive premiums. In addition this policy has a great deal of flexibility enabling you to add people in or take people out, alter the balance of your cover etc etc."

"You have elected to pay for the advice which you have received from [IFA name] by allowing [company name] to pay commission to [IFA name]. This commission, however, is not fully earned for 48 months. If you cancel the policy during that period [company name] will reclaim from [IFA name] the commission which has not been earned. The latest time at which a charge could be made is up to the end of the initial earnings period. For this reason our terms of business reserves the right to charge you a fee for stopping premiums the amount would be decided by the number of months left to reach month 48. The chargeable amount reduces over the earnings period."

Neither of which, I think, covers the possibility of an amendment to a policy. Therefore his arguement doesn't seem exactly water tight, does it?

J

IIRC the FSA is hostile to this kind of consumer treatment.

(uk.legal added)

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