Bitstring , from the wonderful person fj said
No. The source deducts tax at 20% and the government is happy to make do with that instead of the 22% you 'should have' paid.
Bitstring , from the wonderful person fj said
No. The source deducts tax at 20% and the government is happy to make do with that instead of the 22% you 'should have' paid.
As an ordinary tax payer (i.e. my earnings are well below any point at which i should pay tax at the higher rate) do I owe any tax on savings that have already been taxed at the normal (lower rate)? For example a building society account?
cheers
fj
I don't think you win anything, 22% was introduced because they created that new progressive band at 10%. Obviously the 20% taken out of interest doesn't include that lower band.
There is no "should have" about it, and no government is ever happy to "make do".
20% is deducted because that is what you should pay.Were you to get interest from somewhere which does not deduct tax at source, you would still have only to pay 20% on it.
Capital gains are also taxed at 20%.
Bitstring , from the wonderful person Virgils Ghost said
If you are a 10% tax payer ISTR that you can reclaim the overpaid tax on what has been deducted at 20%.
Bitstring , from the wonderful person Ronald Raygun said
Yes, but this is a concession from where it used to be, when interest income was added to your other incomes and the whole mess taxed at basic rate. Maybe you are too young to remember?
In message of Sat, 22 Apr 2006, GSV Three Minds in a Can writes
No 'concession' it is the LAW
Thanks to everyone who answered
fj
Bitstring , from the wonderful person David Floyd said
Many 'concessions' are enshrined in law, especially the finance acts. You obviously haven't waded through thedocumentation, or you would have noticed many things which can only be considered concessions, like married couples allowance being retained (in mangled form) for those over a certain age, and tax loopholes associated with antique pensions schemes still being preserved (OK, many of those finally got the chop this April).
Anyway, you call it what you like, and I'll call it a concession. That way I won't be as upset as you when some future chancellor decides to set the rate back to match basic rate of income tax, or to tax dividends at 20% instead of 10%.
Again, the 20% tax on interest doesn't include the 10% progressive band. The reason the 22% band was created for income tax was because they introduced the 10% stage, hence the extra 2% on 22% to offset this lower rate further down the scale.
They can put whatever figure they like as the dividend tax rate, in reality, it doesn't make much difference unless the tax "credit" pushes you into a higher tax band. In reality, most dividends are taxed at 30%.
"Virgils Ghost" wrote
If that were the reason, then why are the tax rates on *interest* set at 10% then 20%?
According to your reasoning, the rates would have been set at 20% & 20% -OR- 10% & 22%. But they weren't - the rates are 10% & 20%...
"Virgils Ghost" wrote
Did you mean:- (A) "The reason the basic rate band was created decades ago"; -OR- (B) "The reason the basic rate was reduced down to 22% a few years ago" ?
In message of Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Virgils Ghost writes
Don't understand what you mean by this. When an individual's self assessment is worked out and the reduced rate of 10% hasn't been used up then any interest income will be subject to tax at 10% (assuming other allowances have been used up). So if it's already been taxed at 20% at source there cold be a refund due.
Does the 20% tax on interest include the 10% progression? As far as I'm aware it's just simple 20%, correct me if this is wrong.
In message of Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Virgils Ghost writes
The rates of tax (for chargeable income after allowances) for individuals are as follows:
Interest: 10%,20%,40% Other earned and unearned income: 10%,22%,40% Dividends: 10%(deemed to have been paid), 32.5%(10% deemed to have been paid) Capital Gains: 20%,40%
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