Many Banks May Resume Dividends

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WFC and JPM have a P/E, return on assets, and return on equity that are not non-sensical. Compare to BAC and C.

Financial education-wise it was still very interesting to me when even the likes of WFC reduced its dividend significantly. I expect BAC and C to recover as well, though granted WFC never seemed to be in as much trouble.

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Elle

WFC kept WB stock options (prorated and repriced) in order to adequately compensate WB management for achieving their long-term objectives in the best interests of the shareholders.

There was nothing I saw in WB 10K filings to indicate it had a potential loss of $800 billion dollars (out of total assets of $837 billion). I perused these for a few hours to arrive at an approximate maximum liability of $24 billion - the same number a Bloomberg reporter subsequently came up with as a result of her perusal. I consider bank reporting to be entirely fictional, that is, to be politically correct, "creative." It is a very low form of creativity. New regulations are inadequate and weak and deferred for many years, to begin with. Yet banks now seek through international lobbying of regulatory bodies to dilute them even further, to allow the same undisclosed derivatives transactions that brought on the financial crisis to begin with. I consider the NYT article to be merely bank lobbying PR.

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dapperdobbs

Your opinions are gold to me. Fortunately(?) my bank stocks are worth so little at this point that I do not tarry over selling them. Looking at the bright side, their history was free(?) education at this point, and it keeps me humble. About eleven percent of my portfolio of stocks, CDs and money markets was in banks before the crash. Five percent was in WM (ouch). Igor has the backbone to hold 15% in banks. Now I know why P/Es historically are well below the average for the S&P. Risk. Or else like you suggest George: They are bloody houses of cards.

Love my (nuts and bolts) Ingersoll Rand's (IR) history, even with the dividend cut. Plus being nuts and bolts, I sleep better holding it and similar stocks. :-)

Otherwise I am leary of the manufacturing stocks that have to do a lot of financing. E.g. automobile stocks and places like CAT. General Electric is irritating for its huge switch some years ago from building things other than, again, financial houses of cards.

So are my impressions as a layperson whose main strategy is diversification and betting on the economy (and greed of the public to live better) as a whole.

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Elle

Wells Fargo had to reduce its dividends due to TARP. They had no choice.

Wells never did any of the stupid things that the other banks did. They never went into dumb loan business, loaned money to questionable countries, etc.

They stuck to what they knew, which is boring banking, safe lending, cross selling of financial products, serving customers well etc. They have the lowest cost of funds among major banks due to a well run operation.

I expect that they will pay a $2 dividend per year when the dust settles. They paid a $1.4 dividend before the crisis, but picked up Wachovia on the cheap.

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Igor Chudov

Wish all of them were, actually.

You like nuts and bolts, eh?

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dapperdobbs

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