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Model portfolio, update

While the site is up again, here's the promised earnings and PE ratio update to the fictional portfolio I threw together a little over two years ago.
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EPS '08 '09 '10
T 2.12 2.12 2.30 BP 8.17 4.47 -1.57 CHRW 2.08 2.13 2.33 CSCO 1.26 1.04 1.32 DD 2.73 2.04 3.31 EMR 3.11 2.27 2.60 FAST 1.91 1.24 1.80 FISV 3.27 3.62 4.50 IR 2.69 1.41 2.24 MSM 3.06 1.77 2.62
PE '08 '09 '10
T 13.0 12.3 BP 5.4 N/A CHRW 22.0 32.0 CSCO 11.9 14.3 DD 8.3 16.4 EMR 10.0 23.4 FAST 16.8 35.2 FISV 9.9 15.3 IR 5.3 20.8 MSM 10.2 23.7
portfolio 84% index 64%
Of course a lot could be said about the market, but IMO the thing to look at is the business of individual companies. The play-with- statistics standouts above are T (for it's lower PE) and FISV (for its EPS growth), but one must read up on the businesses to get an understanding of what the companies actually do, and a feel for each. The above took me about an hour and a half to do for the benefit of interested readers (slave drivers).
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dapperdobbs
And for those interested, here is the "dart-throwing monkey" portfolio of US stocks, which required exactly 4 seconds of work and will continue to require that much work for the next 50 years, as long as you are happy with a dart-throwing monkey managing your assets:
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It's up somewhere around 70% including reinvested dividends.
Which is of course a good bit less than the 10-stock 4710 portfolio's 85% or so. Though if you ignore the chart-popping IM, I believe the rest of the bunch collectively underperformed the market!
-Tad
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Tad Borek
Thank you for your comments and the reivested dividends computation on the index fund.
IR and DD are stocks I was reading up on at the time. I included T and BP for dividends (but didn't do enough thinking and comparing on BP - I stopped at their interests in Russian oil, and didn't think to check their operational safety record). It's interesting that some PE ratios have more than doubled, while only five companies are showing increased EPS.
In the waning months of 2008 some of the discussion was about the market finding a bottom v. EOW (End of World). So the PE's were low.
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dapperdobbs
Tad Borek writes:
Well, let's be fair, "dart-throwing-monkey" is a cute, but innaccurate descriptiong - unless that monkey threw about 8000 darts.
But yes - a total market index is pretty damned hard to beat.
Stockalicious is a nifty site, but it does have some quirks - the way it handles dividends, for example, is weird. It's not entirely clear how it handles dividends.
On the FAQ page, they indicate that they neither reinvest the dividends nor do they add them back into the portfolio as cash. (both of which facts are clear when looking at the holdings indicated on either of the portfolios noted above- both had plenty of dividends over the two year period in question).
However, it looks like the dividends *are* included when computing the total return for the portfolios (as if they were reinvested).
If that latter is true, then the only time the performance analysis will be correct (if not the ending portfolio value) would be for either a single-security portfolio (ie. the second one noted above) or a portfolio of securities which generate no dividends.
Like I said, it's weird. I haven't figured out whether it's useful or not.
Or maybe I'm missing something.
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