Inflated A/R on cash basis balance sheet

I'm trying to resolve a problem with the Cash Basis Balance Sheet showing an incorrectly inflated Accounts Receivable amount.

Frequently in this newsgroup we have seen messages about Cash Basis businesses showing an amount in Accounts Receivable on the Cash basis balance sheet.

We have determined that if you invoice an inventory item but have not yet received payment, the cost of the item is deducted from inventory and added to the A/R account until payment has been entered. Similar issues occur if you invoice an item you have not paid the vendor bill for.

These entries I understand and accept with no quarrel.

However, my situation includes a problem that I cannot resolve. It occurs when an inventory item is 'sold' with a sales price of $0.00. A thread exists in the QB support forums. Look under "Accounts Receivable and Customers" in the discussion titled "Cash Basis Business Questions". There has never been a satisfactory resolution to the issue. (Possibly because there seem to be many events that can cause the problem.) When producing a Cash Basis Balance Sheet, a dollar amount shows up under Accounts Receivable.

My accountant's first reaction was "Why an account receivable in cash basis?" After much research and discussion, we understood the concept of unpaid invoices containing inventory items. No problem there.

In a nutshell, if I 'sell' an inventory part with a non-zero cost but a selling price of zero (give it away), QB records it in the balance sheet A/R account in unbalanced form.

We perform warranty repair services for a number of equipment manufacturers. Several of the manufacturers send us parts at no cost for a specific repair, and we bill the repair back to them. We receive the part into inventory with a cost of zero, and invoice it back out with a price of zero. However, there may be other pieces of that item in stock that we paid for, and QB uses the average cost for the invoice transaction. So it sees a COGS greater than zero, and a sales price of zero. QB lists a debit for the average cost, but there is no offsetting credit. A similar event seems to happen if I damage a part and charge it off to scrap at zero price, or if I 'invoice' it at zero cost as a donation to a charitable organization..

To duplicate the problem: Start by printing a cash basis balance sheet and noting the A/R balance. (I find it helpful to display the Original Amount, Debit and Credit fields on all the following reports.) Then enter several invoices having inventory items that have a defined cost but price them at zero. You may also want to receive into inventory some items having zero cost but having the same item code as other inventory with a non-zero cost. Then invoice those items out with a zero sales price. Run a cash basis balance sheet and examine the A/R entry. It will probably have increased by the average cost of the items that were invoiced. Now receive a payment against those invoices.

I believe the items will still show up in the A/R report when they should not. Now filter the A/R report as described in KB ID# 122646. The total amount of open items listed in this report will be considerably less than the A/R amount in the balance sheet.

Export the A/R report and Filtered Open A/R report to an Excel worksheet, make a working copy of the full A/R report and sort it by the Original Amount field. Add up the values of the items having an Original Amount of zero, and it will be very close to the discrepancy between the open A/R items and the full A/R report.

This issue is causing major headaches with our tax preparations as it gives an incorrectly inflated valuation of A/R as inventory assets and results in the overpayment of taxes by several hundreds of dollars.

Since QB support has not yet come up with a fix for this, is there any way I can enter a ledger entry to credit the unbalanced debit?

(I would appreciate a cc: of any reply posts to nrpreston at yahoo dot com.)

Reply to
Neil Preston
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If you maintain an inventory, good accounting practice (and probably tax law) mandates you MUST use the accrual method.

I think you can see why.

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Post here, read here.

Reply to
HeyBub

That issue has been discussed before here and in the QB forums. IRS rules require accrual methods only if total gross receipts exceed a rather large amount of money.

Look for this message in Google Groups:

Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.financial.quickbooks

From: joyce snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com (Joyce C.)

Date: 5 Mar 2003 22:52:38 -0800

Local: Wed, Mar 5 2003 10:52 pm

Subject: Re: Interesting behaviour

If it worked properly, QB's Cash Basis accounting would properly manage the inventory issue when using Cash basis accounting.

Reply to
Neil Preston

Reply to
Neil Preston

Not quite correct. You are not prohibited from being an accrual based company. The IRS restricts those that can not use the cash basis. What the IRS says is:

The following entities cannot use the cash method, including any combination of methods that includes the cash method. (See Special rules for farming businesses, later.)

-A corporation (other than an S corporation) with average annual gross receipts exceeding $5 million. See Gross receipts test below.

-A partnership with a corporation (other than an S corporation) as a partner, and with the partnership having average annual gross receipts exceeding $5 million. See Gross receipts test below.

-A tax shelter.

You should look at this page at the IRS and pay attention to the cash vs accrual accounting methods outlined:

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An inventory is necessary to clearly show income when the production, purchase, or sale of merchandise is an income-producing factor. If you must account for an inventory in your business, you must use an accrual method of accounting for your purchases and sales. However, see Exceptions, next. See also Accrual Method, earlier.

To figure taxable income, you must value your inventory at the beginning and end of each tax year. To determine the value, you need a method for identifying the items in your inventory and a method for valuing these items. See Identifying Cost and Valuing Inventory, later.

The rules for valuing inventory cannot be the same for all kinds of businesses. The method you use must conform to generally accepted accounting principles for similar businesses and must clearly reflect income. Your inventory practices must be consistent from year to year.

Again, I think you really should discuss this with your accountant.

Reply to
Laura

Clarification noted. The details were not significant to this particular situation.

As has been pointed out in other posts, QB uses accrual methods by default. A cash basis business simply generates reports that are interpreted as cash basis.

I believe the problem I'm describing will occur regardless of whether cash basis or accrual basis accounting it used. It just becomes more obvious when producing a report in cash basis.

If I am interpreting this correctly, when an item is invoiced with a real sales price, the cost of the item is debited to inventory and credited to A/R. When the payment is received, the cost is debited from A/R and credited to COGS. (I'm still not sure where the sales price falls in here - possibly a parallel transaction?)

When an inventory item is invoiced with a zero sales price, the item is debited against inventory and credited to A/R as before. However, at payment since the price is zero, there is no transaction to move the cost from A/R to COGS. Here is where the problem rears its head.

So, back to my original question: How do we work around it? (Preferably without resorting to ledger entries.)

Reply to
Neil Preston

Very interesting. Looked at the thread on the QB board and decided to do a little test. I was unable to get the problem to occur in the Mac version. Perhaps someone who has this issue on a PC version and has access to a Mac version can let us know. I would find it very significant if the problem only happened on one platform! Then again someone else is reporting that any file taken from PC land into Mac land eventually corrupts so I suppose it is possible there is a very low level bug in the PC version, that some data link isn't being written on the PC platform and it is on the Mac. Then again I may have not understood all the steps necessary to get the problem to show in the cash basis report.

Neil Prest> I'm trying to resolve a problem with the Cash Basis Balance Sheet showing an

Reply to
Golden California Girls

Just curious - on the Mac version, if you create an invoice with one inventory item and give it a price of zero, what are the journal entries? (Go to Reports/Accountant/Journal and select only today's date. Look for the invoice number.)

Leaving that report open, create a balance sheet cash basis report. Double click on the A/R total to open the detail. See if you can find the invoice number in that report. Use the "modify report" button to include the Credit and Debit columns.

I created an invoice like this, and the Journal entries are: A/R debit: 0.00 Sales debit: 0.00 Inventory asset credit: 81.28 COGS debit: 81.28 sales tax debit: 0.00

This looked OK to me, but when I went to the A/R transaction detail, the invoice shows up as a single line: Split: "sales" debit: 81.28, credit: (blank) original amount: 0.00 Paid amount: 81.28 Balance: (increased by 81.28)

All other transactions having an inventory item with a nonzero sales price have two lines for each item: one for a debit followed by another having the same amount listed in the credit column.

The Journal entries for a nonzero transaction include credits to Sales, Services and sometimes other accounts which add up to the total debit in the A/R entry. (Note that the problem entry has a DEBIT to Sales.)

This particular transaction was originally intended to be a donation of an item to a charitable organization. I still haven't figured out how to connect the donation of an inventory item to properly deduct it from inventory and add it to COGS.

This is getting really frustrating. Nobody seems to have an answer, and QB support is completely silent on it.

Reply to
npreston

Okay, going back and doing it again, I get a similar set of entries. I do note that there is a reduction in the inventory asset account as well. It looks like what is going on is QB is moving the inventory asset to the A/R. The books do stay in balance. Obviously you don't want that entry going to A/R but to a COGS account. QB doesn't have a place to say which COGS account would be the correct one to hit either.

For donations, here is one way to get it to go. Create the invoice but give it a price. Use an item of say donation and enter it as a negative for the same amount. You can associate the donation item with whatever COGS account you think proper. This way also lets you pick up sales tax on the item and pay it as required for withdrawing an item from inventory. Solves your problem, but not the issue.

Reply to
Golden California Girls

Actually on a cash basis moving the inventory from the inventory account to the A/R account makes sense. If it did not then the matching principal would be out of wack. The cost of the sale should be matched with the actual sale, when the receipt comes in.

Reply to
Allan Martin

Allan are you saying that in perpetuity there should be an amount in the A/R, cash basis? Doesn't that make something wrong on the cash basis P&L? Seems like QB is missing a cash basis journal entry to get that amount out of the A/R and onto the P&L, normally done by receive payment but you can't do that for a zero invoice!

Reply to
Golden California Girls

That would be my guess too. Thinking off the top of my head here but you would need a transaction that clears the A/R amount but posts an additional transaction of opposite amount to another account. The invoice is now zero consisting of a debit and a credit to complete the picture. QB (and PT too) won't post a zero transaction to the same account so you need a cr/db to 2 different accounts for this to work.

Reply to
Laura

No, I am not. My post on its face makes sense. The fact that there is a glitch when it comes to zero amount invoices does not mean that in theroy the accounting is incorrect.

Reply to
Allan Martin

Did Allan just say that QB has a bug?!! Has hell frozen over?!!

Allan, just a question. I know the Internal Revenue Code has some rather specific and rigerous requirements for any automated accounting system. If QB has this bug in it, do you think that makes it unable to be used for keeping books that are subject to taxes? Obviously with this bug in it you can't get correct cash basis reports out of QB so clearly it can not be used for taxpayers who file cash basis returns. So are you going to advise your cash basis clients to find another accounting package?

Or do you have a work around that you will share?

Reply to
Golden California Girls

First off, I never said QB was pefect, I only said that I was perfect. Second where in the world did you hear that the IRS has specific and rigerous requirements for any automated accounting system? That statement is absurd. Last but not least the taxpaper has the responsibility to file correct tax returns. If a report coming out of QB is wrong that does not preclude the taxpayer from reporting the correct information on the return.

Just for your information, I do not have any cash basis clients that track inventory, they are all on the accrual basis.

Reply to
Allan Martin

Revenue Procedure 98?25 Revenue Procedure 97?22

Of course you can simply keep all the paper but then it is the paper that is the basis for the tax return, not the output of the computer.

Reply to
Golden California Girls

98$25 exempts me from any Federal Income taxes and 97$22 my cousin Ricky.
Reply to
Allan Martin

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