I know that if one has capital loss carryovers, one can get a $3,000 tax credit. But, if you take the tax credit, are you still allowed to use the capital loss carryovers to offset this year's capital gains?
Where would I check to see if TurboTax has done that?
Thanks.
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Scott W
First of all, it's technically NOT a credit. It is a reduction (deduction) of your income. If you look on Schedule D it will all be explained. You can offset all the carryover if you have matching gain in this tax year. If the loss exceeds the gain, only $3000 can be taken, the rest carries over.
I'm using TT Deluxe desktop.
I know that if one has capital loss carryovers, one can get a $3,000 tax credit. But, if you take the tax credit, are you still allowed to use the capital loss carryovers to offset this year's capital gains?
Where would I check to see if TurboTax has done that?
Thanks.
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danbrown
Schedule D, Lines 14 & 15 ... to see the reduction in your Cap Loss Carryforward.
Form 1040, Line 13 ... to see the $3,000
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scott s.
danbrown wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Alternatively, you can look at the Cap Loss Carry Forward smart worksheet (and also Cap Loss Carry Over worksheet if you have unused losses from prior years).
scott s. .
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R. C. White
Hi, Jeff.
As Scott said, there's a BIG difference between a credit and a deduction.
For someone whose top income is taxed at 20%, a $3,000 deduction - such as a capital loss carryover - might save him $600. But a $3,000 credit - if fact in his return allowed him to use it all - would save him a full $3,000.
A deduction reduces INCOME, after which we apply the tax rate to find the tax. And THEN we apply any credit we might have to reduce the TAX, dollar for dollar.
I know the details of the tax code have changed a lot since I retired over
20 years ago, but I think the basic structure - including the difference between credits and deductions - is still the same.
RC
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I'm using TT Deluxe desktop.
I know that if one has capital loss carryovers, one can get a $3,000 tax credit. But, if you take the tax credit, are you still allowed to use the capital loss carryovers to offset this year's capital gains?
Where would I check to see if TurboTax has done that?
Thanks.
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Jeff
Thank you all.
TurboTax is working correctly. I just got hurt by the new tax laws for
2014 and the increase in taxes was more than I expected.
Thanks everybody.
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ps56k
I'm curious - Where and how exactly did you get hurt compared to previous years tax schedules ??
I thought the only place was at the higher end - maybe $400k ?
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Jeff
Don't know. I'm just working in TT and I am just middle class.
I've talked to friends who are also just middle class who have shared their shock at what their tax bill is for this year. One who calculates his taxes ahead of time (I think using last year's TT) to ensure he pays enough in the estimated payments told me than when he calculated his current taxes using last year's rules he would have been due a large refund. Instead he is facing a huge additional tax check to pay using this year's rules as implemented in TT.
I think we've been sold a bale of goods. Have you done your taxes for
2013 to see what you owe?
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Scott W
Don't know. I'm just working in TT and I am just middle class.
I've talked to friends who are also just middle class who have shared their shock at what their tax bill is for this year. One who calculates his taxes ahead of time (I think using last year's TT) to ensure he pays enough in the estimated payments told me than when he calculated his current taxes using last year's rules he would have been due a large refund. Instead he is facing a huge additional tax check to pay using this year's rules as implemented in TT.
I think we've been sold a bale of goods. Have you done your taxes for
2013 to see what you owe?
P
ps56k
--- here's some info on the new IRS Form 8960 -----
The IRS finally released its eagerly awaited final instructions for Form
8960, Net Investment Income Tax-Individuals, Estates, and Trusts, on Thursday. The instructions, which are 20 pages (for a one-page form), were released in draft form in the beginning of January. Practitioners and taxpayers have waited almost a month after the official (delayed) start of tax season (Jan. 31) for the final version. Many tax preparation companies have held returns with this form until the final instructions were released, and this means these returns can now be filed. Form 8960 is a dual-purpose form that is used by both individuals and trusts and estates to compute the new 3.8% net investment income tax and then to report the tax on Forms 1040, U.S. Individual Income Tax Return, and 1041, U.S. Income Tax Return for Estates and Trusts.
Starting this filing season, Sec. 1411(a)(1) imposes a tax equal to 3.8% of the lesser of an individual's net investment income for the tax year or the excess (if any) of the individual's modified adjusted gross income for the tax year over a threshold amount. The threshold amounts are $250,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly and surviving spouses, $125,000 for married taxpayers filing separately, and $200,000 for other taxpayers. The tax also applies to estates and trusts, with different threshold amounts.
On Form 8960, taxpayers calculate total investment income and total deductions and modifications (such as investment interest expense and state taxes) to arrive at net investment income. The form provides separate tax calculations for individuals and for trusts and estates. Individuals report the net investment income tax on line 60 of Form 1040; trusts and estates will report it on Schedule G, line 4, of Form 1041.
------------ and the Medicare Tax update for 2013 -------------
New additional Medicare payroll tax Beginning in 2013, the employee share of the hospital insurance (HI), or Medicare, portion of the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) payroll tax will increase by 0.9% (from 1.45% to 2.35%) for high-wage earners. Will you be affected? The tax applies to the extent that your wages exceed $200,000 ($250,000 in combined wages if you're married and file a joint federal income tax return, $125,000 if you're married and file separately)
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ps56k
BTW - both of these kick in at the $250k for the MFJ type of filing... SO - if you are not at $250k for a Married Filing Jointly - then these new "high earner" taxes do not apply...
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Jeff
Thank you (I think) for all the bad news.
The personal exemptions changes and AMT don't help either.
No longer pays to be successful (or have the stock market shoot up).
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scott s.
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I've been hit by AMT when too much of gross income was from cap gains.
scott s. .
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