2010 Schedule SE, Health Insurance, two Schedule C's

Mar 28, 2011 7 Replies

Hi everyone.



Taxpayer is married filing jointly. Both spouses have schedule C income, one income being above the $106,800 social security ceiling. TP historically takes the adjustment to income for self-employed health insurance; prior to 2010 there was no tax impact to whether this adjustment was related to one, the other, or both Schedule C businesses. It is a single health insurance policy covering the two spouses.



The instructions for line 3 of Schedule SE (page SE-3 of the instructions) seem to suggest the insurance premiums should be allocated between the two schedule SE's. Or do they?



Any ideas? Should it just be split in two in all cases? Maybe it can all be put on the more advantageous SE? (Tax impact of possibly $2K, once the ripple effect on qualified plan contribution levels is accounted for.)



My instinct says to split it, consistent with each spouse having established for their business just their share of the health insurance policy.



Steve


You have to look to see who's name the policy is in. If it's in HIS name and she is his dependent then it goes on his part of the return. If the policy is in her name it goes on her part. IF they have separate policies they each get their own premiums.

Gene E. Utterback, EA, RFC, ABA

Thanks, this is logical. (Is there a source for this?) I am not sure the instructions suggest what you suggest however. The wording suggests if a fraction of the premium is "allocable" to one spouse, it is placed on their SE.

Steve

I have no idea where you may be looking that suggest you have to allocate. There is no allocation. If your name is on the policy then it is your business that gets the whole deduction and it is you who gets the SE tax benefit for 2010.

The instructions (page SE-3, instructions for line 3) say "If you and your spouse are taking a deduction for self-employed health insurance on line 29 of a joint form 1040, each of you subtracts on line 3 of your separate schedule SE only the amount attributable to your own premiums."

To me, this seems to read like it should be split. While I understand what your are saying, I am not sure why "name on the policy" should override the substance of what this sentence from the instructions says.

(I would think the "substance over form" rule applies here. which name is on an insurance policy, or listed first on a policy, when it covers a married couple is fairly irrelevant.)

Steve

Answering my own question: Publication 535 uses the "in the name of" wording as a criterion, specifically, if a policy is in either name of the business, or the name of the Schedule C filer, then it is "established under the business" for that Schedule C filer. (Bottom of Page 18 of 2010 Pub 535.)

So in the case like the one at hand it needs to be determined if the policy is in the name of one, the other, or both persons.

Thanks again

Steve

That statement starts with "If you and your spouse are taking a deduction...". This means that you both have your own policies and you both are going to take a deduction. The sentence is only meant to tell you that you can't combine or mix and match the amount paid. I see in another post that you discovered the clarity in Pub 535.

Yes, or it could mean there is one policy, but it is in both persons' names.

Steve

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