A Peruvian citizen works in the US in the 1950s and 1960s, and then returns home due to sickness and retires there. The Peruvian citizen does not have US citizenship and does not have a current green card. The Peruvian citizen does visit the US but does not have residency here. Does that person have the right to their social security benefits, and if yes what is required to file their status with social security so as to stay current with US law about non residents who receive the social security benefit?
Retaining Social Security Benefits for Non Resident
Apr 06, 2010
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Citizenship doesnt matter in qualifying for a SS pension. As long they paid in 40 quarters of taxes under a legal SS number. Contact a SS office for one's payment history summary.
The difficulty is that SS does not send money abroad for non-citizens. The client would have to have to established a US-based bank account for check deposits. This may not be too hard in this era of online banks.
There is a list of countries that Social Security does send funds to a foreign bank. Peru is on that list.
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You could try contacting the Embassy in Lima, but I doubt that they can help you as it seems they do not have a foreign operations office for this subject. Use the address below or phone number to get more information. Also note, that as a nonresident, 30% of your benefits (actually 30% x 85% of your benefits) will be withheld for income taxes.
Social Security Administration Office of International Operations P.O. Box 17769 Baltimore, Maryland 21235-7769
You may also call SSA's Office of International Operations directly at 410-965-5404, or send a fax to 410-965-6539. Calls are answered only in English and during normal business hours for the Eastern U.S.
Isn't social security income US source income? If yes, then it should be on page 1 of 1040-NR, usually taxed at lower rates, with a foreign tax credit for tax on this income paid to Peru.
Is there a treaty between Peru and US? I didn't see one on
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That is what I thought, so part 2 of this saga is that the Peruvian citizen received a letter from Social Security saying that they need to come in an establish their residency within 15 days or they lose their benefit. That struck me as a very short timeline and it also struck me as wrong that they would threaten as the consequence of not being a resident the total loss of benefit. Has anyone seen one of these notices before, and what is the right response to this?
She has a bank account in the US and also has relatives here, so the problem is making sure to understand her legal rights and try to understand the correct way to respond to Social Security.
OK, I see it in the instructions. If no treaty, then flat 30% tax on
85% of amount. And no foreign tax credit either?Line 8?Social security benefits (and tier 1 railroad retirement benefits treated as social security). 85% of the U.S. social security and equivalent railroad retirement benefits you received are taxable. This amount is treated as U.S. source income not effectively connected with a U.S. trade or business. It is subject to the 30% tax rate, unless exempt or taxed at a reduced rate under a U.S. tax treaty. Social security benefits include any monthly benefit under title II of the Social Security Act or the part of a tier 1 railroad retirement benefit treated as a social security benefit. They do not include any Supplemental Security Income (SSI) payments.
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