RMD from inherited IRA

Here's the situation I need your help with. My grandmother passed away last summer and left all her assets to her children, including a traditional IRA. I believe she had already started taking RMDs before her death. During the few months it took to sort out and transfer her assets, my mother became terminally ill and passed away in November. "Rough year" would be an understatement.

My mother's portion of that inherited IRA has now been transferred into separate accounts for my sister and me. What's not clear is whether that portion of the original IRA was first transferred to my mother and then to my sister and me, or whether it was transferred directly to my sister and me. I should be able to get an answer from the investment firm, but I don't know the answer at the moment (or whether it actually matters).

From what I understand about beneficiary IRA accounts, the order of transfer might matter because the first beneficiary starts making RMDs based on their projected lifespan or that of the original owner, whichever is longer. However the next generation of beneficiaries must continue that choice until the account is exhausted. In our case, my mother died before she was ever required to make RMDs and as mentioned earlier, it's not clear whether she was ever a beneficiary owner in the interim.

So my questions for you are:

1) What schedule for RMDs am I required to follow, and are there options? 2) Does this depend upon whether the transfer went through my mothers beneficiary account? I.e., do I need to follow up to find out the details of the transfer(s)?

Thank you for your help, Pedro

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Pedro
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Here is how I believe it works assuming Grandma was required to take an RMD. In 2013, the year of Grandma's death, the 2013 RMD had to be taken. If it had not been taken by the time of her death, then her beneficiaries were required to take it. The 2013 RMD would have been calculated using the 12/31/12 IRA balance and Grandma's life expectancy from Table III of Pub 590 appendix. Assuming your mother never disclaimed her inheritance before her death, she became a beneficiary who was required to take an RMD no later than 12/31/14. She would have been required to use her life expectancy in Table I of the Pub 590 appendix. As she died before being able to take the RMD, the RMD must be taken by her beneficiaries before 12/31/14 using the table for her life expectancy. They (you and your sister) would continue to use her life expectancy for future years.

There might be one exception to this. If Grandma had multiple beneficiaries (say you mother and her two sisters) and Grandma's IRA was never split up into separate accounts for the three beneficiaries then the 2014 RMD would based on the life expectancy of the youngest of the 3 sisters. Once that was determined, you and your sister would be required to take the RMD that belonged to your mom using the life expectancy of the youngest of Grandma's beneficiaries.

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Alan

For non-spouse beneficiaries, the more recent Table 1 (used to be Table

3 in the 90s) limits the age differential between the owner and beneficiary to 10 years. I think it's built into Table 1. That provides the dividing factor for the year following the original owner's death. For each year after that, the beneficiary owner reduces the dividing factor by 1. The beneficiary cannot treat the IRA as his/her own or recalculate. In this case I *think* that the original factor derived for the year after the original owner's death remains, reduced by 1 each year. Feel free to correct if I am mistaken, but I inherited an IRA in 1991 and after talking to three different IRS people, have been doing it this way since. The most knowledgeable IRS person said "The instructions state 'at least as rapidly as the METHOD used." The account custodian (the 5th one) has no idea what my RMD is. Also, the inherited IRA is set up as .
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Tables II and III in Appendix C of Pub 590 are used by owners of an IRA. The life expectancy factor in the table is used to determine the RMD base on the age of the owner in the year of the RMD. Table I is used by a beneficiary of an IRA to determine the RMD ONLY for the first year that the RMD is required. As you say, for subsequent years, the beneficiary just reduces the original factor by one for each subsequent year.

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Alan

Thank you for your replies, this is very helpful.

-Pedro

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Pedro

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