child income tax ?

Hello everyone and thanks for reading this message. I hope you can help me.

I am working for a language agency. We are employing part-time and freelance staff who are payed per assignment. Unless they have a self-taxation number, they are automatically taxed. This is all done through a fee claims procedure that I do not want to explain in detail here.

We now have an unusual situation: We have been approached by a TV production company asking us to provide a couple of child actors. The work has been done - all above board, proper permissions obtained etc. I am about to send an invoice to the company and process fee claims.

But there is one problem I am not sure about. Obviously, the parents have to claim the agreed fees for their children. It was also agreed (as requested by the TV company) that the money should be deposited in a bank account on behalf of the children - proof to be produced on request.

One set of parents now raised the issue whether their child should be taxed on his income.

What is the official position here: Is this child's income part of his parents' or can a child have a separate tax allowance?

I think, ultimately it would be the parents' responsibility to find out about their family's tax situation, but I would like to give them the right advice.

What do they have to do? Whom would they have to contact?

Many thanks for your thoughts on this.

Holger Laux

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Holger Laux
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I may be wrong as the information is not held at present. However I believe a personal allowance is due from the day you are born. I would not think the income of the child would be treated as anyone elses other than the child. However it may be the tax records may have to be set up in an adult name as representative for the child or something similar.

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x.x

Yep this is exactly right. A child is taxed on exactly the same basis as an adult.

No idea about this.

tim

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tim (moved to sweden)

Out of interest, what's a 'self taxation number'?

If your agency is required to deduct a withholding tax amount from an adult then it is equally required to deduct it from a child. So it *is* your responsibility to find out.

tim

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tim (moved to sweden)

It means that the person is registered as self-employed and does their own tax returns. They are not taxed from our side.

If they do not have this, they are either taxed at emergency rate or according to the information held about them (like a P46 etc.).

Sorry to sound vague, this is not normally part of my job. It has been referred back to me because I originally dealt with this assignment.

(Also, there are certain aspects I do not want to discuss in a public forum. You can mail me if you wish.)

That is what I am trying to find out.

Since this is a seven year old child, the claim somehow has to be made through the parents. But I understand from the other posts that it is not the parents' money, it is still the child's.

So what do the parents have to do to get their child registered as a taxable earner with allowances etc.?

I assume they could then sign a P46 for him and he would not be taxed? (We are talking about a very small amount of money, far below the annual allowance.)

Many thanks,

Holger

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Holger Laux

Children are taxed in the same way as everyone else. The only difference is that where they earn bank interest on money given to them by their parents, that interest, to the extent that it exceeds £100 per year is treated as their parents' income.

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Jonathan Bryce

In message of Tue, 25 Oct 2005, tim (moved to sweden) writes

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David Floyd

Yes I understand this bit. I was not aware that the IR gave out 'certs' for this. The last time I asked (ages ago) they told me they didn't.

Is that a P46, isn't that the form that gets you the emergency tax code?

tim

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tim (moved to sweden)

Thanks. So what do the parents have to do? Does the child get a NI number, under which the income is registered?

Holger

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Holger Laux

Please remember that I am not a tax person, not even dealing with finances directly.

As far as I am aware, it is the basis of your allowance for tax-free income (up to some 4000 pa, don't have the exact figure right now). It is being kept by your main or only employer.

Holger

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Holger Laux

Perhaps speaking to the inland revenue directly could help, seening as no-one has an answer off the top of their heads.

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Biscit

I have not the time to reply in more detail at present - but go into

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and enter MINOR(S)- INFANT CHILDREN - CHILDREN -ETC in the search facility and try navigating from there.

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x.x

Thanks. I called up their helpline and, FYI, this is what they told me:

Children can be registered as taxable earners like any other person. This would be done through their employer (i.e. us).

However, since this is just a one-off (understandably, legislation is very strict about the kind and amount of work a child is allowed to do), it is worth consulting the local compliance officer. It is, as I said, a fairly small amount and the boy is not likely to do this again in the near future nor has he done it in the past. Instead of going through the bureaucracy of setting up a new tax account, the compliance officer may just decide to wave the payment through .

Many thanks for all your input,

Holger

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Holger Laux

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