I'm currently having trouble with an annoying company who insist on calling me (to sell me some crap) despite me telling them not *and* my being TPS registered.
I note from this report:
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(also reported elsewhere) that the ICO have singled out one company who are worse than the rest.
I don't suppose that anyone here knows who are the known bad boys for this?
Just curious what the company is called - you might be able to get some info from
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to enable you to write to them direct.
Do they have any information on you other than a "random" phone no. ?
- if so, they should probably be registered under the Data Protection Act.
Ask for their Data Protection Registration Number and pursue a complaint with the Data Protection Commissioner - there are specific terms under the DPA which give you the right to *not* have your details abused in this way, so ask for their nominated Data Controller to contact you direct.
Another approach I had success with recently with ABC Loans* (who repeatedly spam mailed me under several guises) was to track back how my details came to be in their possession. In my case, they were originally using a third party to send the email, so a snotty letter went to them and their ISP. This lead me to a data mining company that had passed my details for a one-off mailshot in 2002 (at this stage, the data probably was legitimate), and had deleted my details in 2003. The ISP who hosted them was not impressed with their antics, and when I next checked, they`d moved hosts, and had started to send spam direct from their "new" host rather than using a third party.
Armed with this, I was then able to confront ABC Loans with the prospect of legal action for costs (compensation was recently awarded to someone who kept getting spam from one source) and misuse of data in breach of the DPA.
Their new host was contacted and notified of the issues, and I was asked to provide more info - I forwarded the original email correspondence - I didn`t hear any more from them though...
ABC Loans were not initially very helpful until I told them I was happy to issue proceedings to their Directors' home address, and backed it up with dates, times and emails from the various third parties via letter.
I got a formal apology VERY quickly.
*I probably went a little overboard on them, but they set themselves apart from the normal spam merchants by including personally identying information in their emails, i.e. addressing me by name
personally I use 'anonymous caller rejection' which gets most, and 'choose to refuse' which gets some more. Remaining ones are from international, which does get through, but not too many.
I didnt, I have now, very dissapointing, I was sure I had read of firms being fined but it seems not, at least not for unsolicited calls.
There is a high probability this will stop them doing it to you, they will flag you as not be be called because you are costing them time, which is a precious commodity for them.
Indeed :-(
yes I've had it as well from one company, however since I told the caller very cleary to f right off, I havent had any repeats.
This is the advantage (!) of them calling 4 times. Each time I could refer them back to the previous conversation when supervisor X made no difference, until I got a name and number of someone who *can* make a difference.
Except thatg he said the my understanding was wrong and that he *was* allowed to call me.
As a freelancer, who gets many calls from recruiters who always seem to withhold numbers, I would get no work if I did this.
This is from an Indian call centre, but the company trades in the UK and the number that I finally got is in the UK.
I don't believe (and I hope that nobody else does) that the physical location of the place that the call being made from, means that UK based companies can ignore the rules.
Them: "I'm phoning from X" Me (the second time, having heard it before): "I don't want to buy anything" Them "I'm not phoning to sell you anything" "OK" "I'm phoning to offer you the opportunity to take advantage of a special offer..." "Stop there, I don't care what you call it, but I call this you trying to sell me something" "Can I speak to your supervisor please" "click"
The third time I didn't let him get pas the company name but did get to speak to the supervisor.
But once you've got the company name, and after a quick google, you can call them back (bonus points for calling Real Head Office rather than the subsidiary's call centre) and ask to speak to their 'Data Control Officer, regarding a possible breech of the Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003'.
"Oh, they're in a meeting, are they?, well perhaps you should interrupt them, or maybe you could put me through to $CO_SECRETARY or another Officer Of the Company, and confirm the address of your registered office where papers may be served?"
'tis not really fair on the poor reception-droid, but you do get the fun of winding up SomeOneInManagement with "For the compliance purposes, this call is being recorded; can you confirm that you are $FOO of $BAR_CORP who made a call to a TPS-listed number at $TIME on $DAY ?...." ;->
You could try my method, which is to let them get going with their script, merrily gabbling down the phone, and then I just sit there in silence not responding, and they start going 'hello ... hello ... are you there ...'
Or, if they gabble so much that I don't know what they want, I will just keep going 'Pardon?' until they go away.
I think that you will find that if they are calling for or on behalf of a UK, or other EU, company that the TPS *does* apply irrespective of the where the call centre is situated.
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