Credit Card Debt Situation

May 19, 2005 33 Replies

Bit of history, after a long period of divorce, loss of employment and worst off all, depression I found myself in bit of a hole financially. In the end I ended up single, damaged credit record, and even more depressed.



That was a few years ago, thanks to hard work now I'm nearly out of the hole, my only lingering debt is my credit card and I want to climb out over the rim to do something about it. It's not a huge amount compared to some of the tabloiod horror stories I read about, currently about



5500. I don't actually use it now - I used it in the dim and distant past to get me out of a crisis.

Another issue is I could be leaving the country. Of course the tempation is to walk away from it but unfortunatley I have scruples. A firm believer in these things catching up with you.



So what can I do? It's is over three years since my credit mistakes so should I attempt to get a new CC with a balance transfer? And pay off in large chunks when I get the cash? It's my plan to sell up, not wanting to take all my stuff abroad! Funny how typing it out is good therapy - that makes sense to me.



Another issue is I've never appeared on an electrol roll for ages. Moved about with work and never bothered although I appreciate I should by law. I have done at this address. I am a private tenant.



I'm currently paying off the minimum balance which I know is stupid but I have tended to shut my eyes to it - reminds me of the years I was clinically depressed. Time to face my demons again.



I earn about 2000+ a month now net, but only a third of that is part-time employed income, the rest is from various freelances, my goal being never again to ever rely on one income stream.



Thanks



Steve


Good to hear that you're coming out of the problem now Steve.

Well at 2000 a month a 5500 credit card debt shouldn't take you too long to remedy. You have the right idea about doing a balance transfer to a 0% card. make sure you do this sooner rather than later as many if not all card companies are about to put a 2% charge on for balance transfers. The age of the 0% balance transfer is coming to an end.

If you move to a card like the Virgin credit card you will get 9 months interest free which should be long enough for you to pay it off entirely. Check out

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for comparisons on all of the available cards if you want to look at it in more depth. You will be restricted only by the amount you can transfer so you may have to knock the amount down a bit over teh next few months first.

If you pay off in chunks over the next 6-9 months you should be able to clear it all relativly quickly leaving you free to move on.

All the best.

Try to get a 0% balance transfer card.

Rob Graham

"Sam Smith" wrote

You can still make money on a "0%" balance transfer, even if you need to pay a 2% fee -- for instance, if it lasts for 6 months then you just need to get over 4%pa (net) interest in your 'savings' account. This is often achieved if you have an "offset"-type mortgage.

Thanks Sam for the kind regards!

I meant i earn 2k net - ie after tax not expenditure! I reckon i prolly clear 300/400 quid after expenditure a month. Not lately tho - bloody car repairs!!

But like I said I'm looking to sell a load of my stuff, in case I do move overseas. It's mostly Sun Microsystems stuff I used for my job - lot of it! Might get a couple of grand for it. And a couple of Rickenbacker guitars! Place having a tidy place and more space even if I don't move abroad...

Hope that clears things up a bit!

Steve

I was just saying that it is best to move sooner rather than later. :)

Sorry for the misunderstanding! ;)

Even at 3/400 quid a month you are still moving in the right direction and unless you have a really high APR card that should leave you paying off about 3 times more than the minimum. At 350 a month that will take you about 16 months so it is still an achievable near-term target.

Best of luck with everything it sounds like you have quite a lot of stuff that will do rather well on ebay! :)

"Steve" wrote

Definitely get on the electoral roll - it helps eastablish you as of fixed abode and improves your credit score no end. Depending on how long ago your debt problems were you might still have problems getting a 0% deal, in which case your next best bet is to get a storecard and use it sparingly, paying off the balance every month. The advantage of this is that they are easier to get, and used properly, will help create a respectable recent credit history for you. After 6 months or so, try for another 0% deal -- too many applications can, reportedly, damage your credit history in themselves.

Don't know who you're with but Egg and MBNA do generous credit limits.

"John Redman" wrote

Nah - Egg has a maximum of only 15K for their credit limits - hardly "generous" compared to others!! [Eg MBNA maximum is 50K...]

Really, I've never heard it going over 25k. Interesting.

Steve, this website might be of use, a list of 0% cards that have no fees

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Even if you get refused for a card, I'd suggest ringing them and asking if you can ask the underwriters to reconsider. Then send them all credit card statements, bank statements, wage slips, and explain to them the problems you had 3 years ago. I hear that people often manage to get a card after this.

"Jo Reed" wrote

Even more interesting: I know a bank that quotes (on their website) "Maximum credit limit 25,000" but actually gives out credit limits *over*

25K !! [Sometimes I wonder why they bother saying something, when it's patently not true!]

"Jo Reed" wrote

In message , Tim writes

I think its because with regard to unsecured borrowing the limit for regulated agreements under the Consumer Credit Act is £25k. If the advert offered unsecured borrowings in both below and in excess of £25k then it is possible that different rules would apply making each bit of the advert requiring different wordings and making the advert overly complicated. Therefore unsecured borrowing is generally advertised as £25k max even though larger credit limits are available without the protection of the CCA.

In message , Jo Reed writes

The Consumer Credit Act rules for Regulated Agreements apply to unsecured lending up to £25k.

Other regulations within the CCA regulate the provision and advertising of secured loans of any amount where the security is a legal charge over the domestic home without the loan itself becoming a regulated agreement.

If a secured loan is less than £25k then some secured lenders introduce extra procedures for their loans whilst others will not lend below that amount.

"john boyle" wrote

MBNA quote maximum credit limit of 50K on their website. The adverts don't look overly complicated!

"john boyle" wrote

If the agreement is headed "regulated by CCA", even if the credit limit is over 25K, then is it protected?

If you take out a credit card with a limit of under 25K, protected by CCA - and the limit is subsequently raised to over 25K - are you still protected?

If you agree to take a card with a limit of under 25K, but the issuer actually issues you with a card with a limit of over 25K from the start - are you still protected?

In message , Tim writes

No, its quite simple really. The compliance department of some lenders really like to make a meal of things!

No.

In both cases I would say not, but thats only an opinion.

"john boyle" wrote

Really? You could agree with the lender for a credit limit *below* 25K,

*not* borrow more than 25K, but just because the lender *unilaterally* gives you a limit of over 25K, then you won't be protected - even when the credit agreement you signed was headed "CCA etc"?

Sounds fishy to me!

In message , Tim writes

Well we all know what the law is!

In message , Tim writes

On re-reading this I would add to my earlier reply...

I dont know of a situation in which an unsecured credit facility in excess of £25k WOULD be headed as being a "Regulated Agreement". I note you didnt use these words but I assume that is what you meant.

Having said that I do know of such a facility in which the credit provider claimed a debt was regulated by the CCA when the credit granted exceeded the then limit. The debtor defaulted and the creditor sued and lost because despite claims on the form that the credit was a "regulated Agreement" in fact it was not and therefore the whole agreement was void and the debtor was not liable for the debt. Unlike the situation which you describe the circumstances in the case I describe was merely due to a c*ck up by the credit broker involved.

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