divorce / mortgage / court on monday

(also posted to uk.legal.moderated)

I don't have all the info to hand on this unfortunately, so the details might be a little sketchy (i`m writing this on behalf of someone else, and they`re not here to fill in the gaps...)

Oh, and a quick "sorry" - this turned out to be a lot longer than intended :-}

A couple seperated, and for some reason the solicitor hadn`t split the assets at the time of the divorce. There are two children involved, the youngest is about 9yrs old. No maintenance has ever been paid to help bring up his children, and he claims* to be unemployed (and is classed as an "unskilled" worker) - he recently become a father for the third time to another woman, and is apparently trying to blame his ex-wife for his current living standards (shacked up in a flat) to justify the claim.

  • he still manages to run a car and has unaccounted income in excess and in addition to benefits flowing into his bank account per his submissions to court.

Three years down the line, its now coming to a head. The ex-husband is taking his wife to court on Monday to try to make a claim for £20k out of the matrimonial home. The mortgage is for £28k and in joint names, which the ex-wife is struggling to pay on her own. She has no chance at present of being able to pay the endowment premiums, or bringing them up to date (more on this later), nor is there any possibility of her raising funds by other means to "give" him £20k if the judgement goes in his favour.

Husband hadn`t paid the endowment premiums for at least 12 months before the initial split (~March 2001) and the wife was not aware - or notified

- by the endowment company. At a later date, approx April 2002, he stopped making payments on the mortgage. He had lived in the house for approx 10 years at this point, and left the matrimonial home at around the same time (April 2002), making no further contributions of any sort.

House prices have recently risen quite substantially in the area due to other developments, and the ex-husband has had the house "valued" by finding the most expensive equivalent property nearby, and this is what he is basing his claim on.

The house (terraced), to be fair, is in sh*te order, has no central heating, may have substantial damage to the rear elevation due to water penetration (wife can't afford to repair the cause), and shows signs of structural movement - possibly due to the damp problem. Having seen the damage myself i`m "concerned" for the safety and structure of the house. Slates have also reportedly been falling off the roof, but the location makes the roof difficult to visually inspect, so it simply hasn`t been done...

His "valuation" puts the present value of the house at £85k although it quite possibly would only raise a max of about £50k bearing in mind the condition of the building. The house he is comparing it to is fully kitted out with double glazing, central heating, fully modernised etc.

As part of the court hearing on Monday (and i`m not sure if this would be allowed) I don`t know if it would be possible to ask that the mortgage is restored to a level footing, i.e. to repay the deficit on the endowment, and to raise the funds held under the policy to a more realistic figure that may stand some chance of paying the mortgage off if the wife makes the payments henceforth (there`s approx 11 years left to run) - the current "value" of the policy to cash it in is a mere £5k

All this is made the harder for the ex-wife as she has to pay for her own legal representation - he gets it all free on legal aid due to his pretence of being out of work. It also seems she is getting a very poor service from her solicitor given that its taken 3 years to sort out the financial side after the divorce.

Suggestions / comments welcome !

TIA

Reply to
Colin Wilson
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legal representation - he gets it all free on legal aid due to his pretence of being out of work. It also seems she is getting a very poor service from her solicitor given that its taken 3 years to sort out the financial side after the divorce.

Reply to
Richard White

Bitstring , from the wonderful person Richard White said

Ah, time for a laugh - my wife (without asking me) rang a local law company for some information on copyright (an article she had published). Not content with gouging her £80+ for 2 minutes phone advice, they have ever since been claiming they need her utility bill and notarised driving license or passport copy 'for money laundering regs reasons'.

I've told her to tell them to ****-off. They really ought at least =know= the ML regs, didn't they.

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GSV Three Minds in a Can

Ha, not only is her waster of an ex-husband gouging her but she has an endowment mortgage and her house is falling down, some people have no luck!

Suggestions?

  1. sack the solicitor and don't pay his fees
  2. take a sliced onion into court on monday and hope for the best
  3. Sell the house without telling her husband and use the proceeds, after paying off the mortgage co., as a deposit on another house elsewhere in the country.

btw the hubby will have to repay his "free legal aid" out of the 20k he is claiming, in general in divorces legal aid briefs judge it just about so they take most of this money.

Reply to
davidof

I know - i`ve already tried suggesting she get in touch with whoever runs the particular practice to see if someone else could take over...

Its a joint mortgage, so at present, if i`m not mistaken, she wouldn`t be able to do that - and she`d have to split any proceeds with him anyway. The way the housing market is, she wouldn`t be able to afford another house anyway :-}

Interesting :-)

As it happens (I didn`t know beforehand) the court date yesterday was only a preliminary hearing. The husband, true to form, turned up looking like he was a homeless bum with a scruffy cap on, and continued to slouch in court - to the point where the judge asked him to sit appropriately in court.

I don`t know if the same judge generally gets to do the next hearing, but if so, it bodes well :-)

Reply to
Colin Wilson

tears.

Reply to
Tumbleweed

I sussed that out as soon as I hit "send" :-}

Reply to
Colin Wilson

tears as Tumbleweed says. It won't hurt to show how upset she is in court; after all she is the one struggling to bring up two kids in a tumbledown house and pay a mortgage.

Has she been to the CSA?

It was not my best suggestion but she just has to sign for her ex-husband. Don't mention to the solicitor doing the sale that there is any problem between them. You could pose as the hubbie. It's fraud but don't expect the local plod to chase it up too thoroughly.

In general it is best to settle these things amicably without courts or solicitors, as far as is possible. I'm not saying that family law is a gold mine or that all solicitors are in it for the money (my wife is an ex-solicitor).

Reply to
davidof

The judge asked how the kids were, which might bode well if its the same judge at the next hearing...

Yes, and got precisely nowhere fast.

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Colin Wilson

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