House prices 30% overvalued - letter in Financial Times today

Excellent letter in todays FT on the house price bubble and Browns flawed mortgage scheme for FTB's by Professor Phil Davis of Brunel University ..........

First-time buyers better served by letting prices return to more affordable equilibrium values

Published: May 25 2005 03:00

From Prof E. Philip Davis.

Sir, The proposals announced on Monday by Gordon Brown for aiding first-time buyers by having the government share in the housing equity along with the lender, while having obvious political attractions, would seem to be fraught with dangers ("Brown proposes help for first-time buyers", May 23).

Introducing such a scheme when house prices are, by most estimates, up to 30 per cent above their equilibrium levels (based on income, interest rates and, in some cases, demographics and housing supply) would seem likely to perpetuate or even increase the misalignment. The eventual correction when an inevitable "shock" to confidence occurs could hence be yet more painful.

Furthermore, moral hazard can arise from this policy at a number of levels. The most obvious is that belief may grow in the existence of a "Brown put" at a macro level, whereby the government is expected to introduce measures to underpin the housing market, for fear of negative equity, whenever a fall is likely. The history of the "Greenspan put", which extended the equity price bubble in the 1990s and thereby aggravated the correction, is a painful reminder of the related dangers.

Second, there may be moral hazard vis-à-vis the borrowers, who may hold the government responsible for any future negative equity, given its "agreement" in the original price paid for the property. Third, the lenders may feel over-confident as a consequence of the government's involvement and hence fall into excessively lax lending practices; the abuses of the savings and loans crisis in the US spring to mind.

Finally, such schemes, once introduced, are hard to reverse and might be subject to pressure for extension. This raises the question, How much housing equity (which could, in some cases, be negative) is it wise for the government to hold?

While it may sound harsh, first-time buyers would in my view be better served by allowing prices to return to more affordable equilibrium values, as well as reducing the equilibrium itself by allowing supply to expand.

E. Philip Davis, Economics and Finance, Brunel Business School, Brunel University, Uxbridge, Middlesex UB8 3PH

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crowleyalastair
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crowley, I thought you had suggested that prices need to come down by 30% ? The above article only suggests a ** 23% ** reduction in prices...

Reply to
Tim

On 25 May 2005 03:26:22 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

It's all political. Brown is a socialist.

That's exactly what it will do IMV. The policy is seriously flawed.

Indeed and few accept that the late 90s equity bubble crash had been partly caused by Greenspan's earlier stoking of the money supply after the Asian domino crash.

Brown's new daffy idea will do just the same.

Quite. People just walking away from their negative equity homes and leaving the lenders (govt and banks) with property to auction off. A future mess in the making.

I've no doubt that in Brown's case, he's keen to get the state involved in public housing once again.

IIRC current average house values are ~8 times average incomes - the highest it's been for decades, fuelled by low interest rates. A bubble crash is inevitable.Nothing Brown does will help that but will in fact make it worse, much worse for the reasons the letter writer sets out.

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hummingbird

"hummingbird" wrote

What figures are you using for "average house value" and "average income"? For example - 160K / 25K = 6.4 ...

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Tim

Reply to
crowleyalastair

Average salary is around 25k. Average income is considerably lower.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

And don't forget that the 'average salary' is pushed up a lot by high wages in London. Someone earning 25k is on a high salary in much of the country (if not the majority).

Mark

Reply to
mmaker

It's some bizarre mix of socialism and capitalism surely? Maybe that's the Blair project all over. If I were a socialist politician, then good quality rented accommodation would be my policy, or free homes for all who need them.

cd

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criticaldensity

Yup, the worst of capitalism combined with the worst of socialism.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

yeah...and pound notes would grow on apple trees....

Reply to
abelard

So the median is a better measure?

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Chris Game

On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:22:04 +0000 (UTC), "Tim" mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

The figures are those I saw reported v/recently but I doubt if there's any definitive calculation, hence my use of the '~' before 8 ...salary and income not being the same thing of course and regional variations etc. IIRC in the last property boom the multiple got up to somewhere around 5x but this time it's gone higher due to lower interest rates.

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hummingbird

No motherhood and apple pie :-(

cd

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criticaldensity

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:03:56 +0100, criticaldensity mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

The Blair/Brown project is indeed a bizarre mix of socialism and capitalism; I've always thought that. I believe that Brown is the one on the left and Blair is the one now on the right (after two previous incarnations of being on the left - CND etc). What they both have in common is a desire to impose control-freakery on society. Brown wants to increase peoples' dependence on the state (state housing subsidies, welfare benefits etc) whilst Blair passes growing numbers of authoritarian laws (ID Cards, terror laws etc).

So, they both have similar goals ...just using different tactics.

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hummingbird

On Wed, 25 May 2005 14:07:42 +0100, "Andy Pandy" mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

That's a very good description of Blair's policies. If only he could see the eventual outcome.

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hummingbird

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(5 This page suggest the median income is 52*422 pounds, around 22k. 24k for men and 18.6k for women. This was 2003/04.

cd

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criticaldensity

Why would he care? He'll be pissing off to Brussels or onto the lecture circuit before the next election.

Mark

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mmaker

The Institute for Fiscal Studies says () a two adult/two young child household with 24k net income (22990 after deducting 1010 council tax) has higher income than 49% (i.e. is pretty much the median) of the British population.

Best Regards, Alex.

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Alex Butcher

On 25 May 2005 08:25:16 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@my-deja.com mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...

And no doubt making a small fortune from his memoirs too.

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hummingbird

Which is about 30k gross - making the average gross income per adult 15,000. Or per person including children, 7,500.

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Andy Pandy

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