IHT and CGT Planning Question

Scenario is as follows:

Net Value of Estate £450K. Donor and spouse aged 65 and 60 respectively and are preparing to claim state pension. No asset transfers have taken place whatsoever. The donor and spouse have adult children: a son and two daughters. The son has taken an active interest in the family affairs and the daughters are married and independent.

Donor traded 31 yrs, as sole trader from freehold commercial property part of which is his main residence. (Accommodation above shop). Property has a single deed hence no split of deeds between residential to commercial has taken place.

5 years ago Donor ceased trading and commercial portion of building including all business assets was let on 1 yearly renewable licences (i.e. held control of fixtures, fittings and equipment though ceased trading). Donor, subsequent to ceasing trade, travelled to and fro from UK leaving spouse to collect rental Income. The 3rd licensee left the commercial property few moths ago and the Donors son took over the premises under the same conditions trading as a private limited company and paying rent to mother (Donors spouse).

Taking into consideration the following: The nil rate band, Business Property Relief, inter spouse exemptions satisfying IHT regulations - Taper Relief and holdover relief under CGT regulations. The age of the donor and spouse and the fact that the donor had ceased trading but has not disposed business assets and further the availability of the son as heir and the sons current business activity trading as a limited company under a license in the fathers property.

What is the best way forward in order to keep IHT and CGT liabilities minimised if not nil.

Reply to
Ben
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If the estate is wholly owned by the donor, he should gift half of it to the wife. If they already own it jointly, any joint tenancy should be severed so that they each own half (in common, as opposed to both own all of it together). Then they should each will their share independently directly to the children.

No CGT since transfers between spouses are exempt. No IHT since each half-estate is below the threshold. No need to bother with all the tapering nonsense or any of the other subtle stuff.

Reply to
Ronald Raygun

Or do nothing at all now and a Deed of Family Arrangement when/if relevant.

Reply to
Doug Ramage

Yes, in principal that would be a good idea. But what happens later when the parent owning the business portion of the estate dies. How is CGT applicable in that instant? I know there is Business Asset Taper relief for CGT and for IHT there is Business Property Relief, but you have to remember that these will be pensioners soon and on death they will not have been trading. Hence partial relief may only be available.

Incidentlly, does nil rate band cover business assets inherited as exempt?

Reply to
Ben

But they have to trust the children, otherwise they could force a sale to get cash for their half of the property.

Reply to
Stephen Burke

Fair enough, and they would have to trust each other too. But would the children not be shooting themselves in foot by forcing a sale to get half the cash if that meant they would lose the other half? I know a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, but isn't a bird in the cage and one in the bush worth more than one in the hand and the other gone forever? The betrayed surving spouse would, after all, change his/her will and divert the other half to the RNLI.

Besides, can this problem not be avoided with trusts?

Reply to
Ronald Raygun

Yes, so leave the property directly to the survivor against a debt to a trust the ultimate beneficiaries of whom are the kids.

Reply to
john boyle

In message , Ronald Raygun writes

No, but it can be lessened unless the property never goes in the trust at all, see my other reply.

Reply to
john boyle

If this is a lifetime transfer, the CGT implication is the same as if the asset had been sold at its market value. The parent would have to pay tax on the gain (as mitigated by indexation and taper reliefs) being the difference between the value at time of transfer and when it was acquired, less any capital injections along the way.

There may exist some kind of "family business" relief.

It may be possible to transfer shares in the company piecewise year by year, making full use of annual CGT allowances.

Reply to
Ronald Raygun

Gifts are treated as a sale at market value, which will have to be agreed with the IR - possibly with some difficulty for a private company. It might make more sense to make a partial gift each year to keep below the CGT threshold. The parent will also have to consider if they really want to give partial ownership, maybe even control, of their business away.

Reply to
Stephen Burke

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