Senior economist predicts house price crash of between 20 to 50%

"How much could prices fall? Calverley says that, if it is just a return to average levels, the fall could be 20-35 per cent. If it is a return to previous lows in relation to prevailing rents and wages, the fall could be 50 per cent....."

The chief economist at American Express Bank gave his views on the UK house price bubble at the the Royal Bank of Scotland's annual economics lecture ....................

Friday March 24, 03:20 AM

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Calverley hints at bubble and squeak as housing market hits all-time high

AFTER Bill Jamieson reported on Tuesday how the Edinburgh property market is still merrily booming, and Gordon Brown gave a boost to property investment on Wednesday, along came a man with a big bucket of cold water to throw on Bill, Gordon, and all you homeowners.

John Calverley, chief economist and strategist at American Express Bank, gave the RBS (LSE: RBS.L - news) annual economics lecture. He is an expert on "bubbles" - when the price of something inflates way above realistic levels and then bursts, leaving people who bought in at the wrong time a lot poorer.

His book - Bubbles and How to Survive Them (Nicholas Brealey Publishing, Boston) - is much discussed. And as his lecture topic - Bubbles and Busts: will the world housing boom end in tears? - zooms in on a matter of great personal interest to every householder, there was a big turnout.

What he had to say can be summed up in two questions and their answers. Is there a house price bubble? His answer - yes. Is it going to burst? His answer again - yes. At this point, people began to concentrate very hard, especially when he posed the obvious follow-up question: when is it going to burst? Rather disappointingly, he confessed that he did not know. Nonetheless, he is 90 per cent certain that the bust is coming.

So what's his argument? He points out that house prices have inflated across most of the developed world. Since 1997, British prices have gone up by 167 per cent, topped only by California with a 191 per cent increase. The only places where prices have fallen are Germany (down 1 per cent) Japan (-30 per cent) and Hong Kong (-45 per cent). He also notes that prices have risen much faster than incomes and rents, so much so that buying in Britain (including all taxes and maintenance costs) is now 36 per cent more expensive than renting.

Calverley concedes that there are reasons for prices going up. Social trends such as higher divorce rates means that more houses are needed for the same number of people. Mortgages are much more available and easier to get than in the past, and lower real and nominal interest rates mean they are a lot cheaper.

Yet he still thinks it is a bubble. The problem here is that, much though academics have tried, nobody has come up with a convincing way of defining, and hence predicting, a bubble. But he does think that you can draw up a list of bubble characteristics which you can then use to make a subjective judgment.

These are: high expectations of continued price growth; overvaluation compared with historical averages; being several years into an economic upswing; a new element in the market such as stable low interest rates; a change in attitudes such as regarding your home's value as your pension; new investors and entrepreneurs, continuing media and popular interest; a big rise in lending and new lenders; and a low rate of consumer price inflation. House prices check all those boxes, so there must be a bubble, Calverley concludes.

Moreover, he also contends that one country's housing market is increasingly affected by other countries' house prices. Residential property companies operate across national borders as do many individual buyers as they seek a second home that will not just be nice for holidays, but also be an investment. That implies that a house price bust in America will mean a bust here.

How much could prices fall? Calverley says that, if it is just a return to average levels, the fall could be 20-35 per cent. If it is a return to previous lows in relation to prevailing rents and wages, the fall could be 50 per cent.

Calverley did offer a little relief to his Scottish audience, noting that Scottish price swings have been much less wild than in the English market. But, he warned gloomily, Scots are liable to be hit at the same time as the rest of Britain.

That still leaves open the question of why and when a price bust may happen. The likeliest causes are an economic recession and a marked rise in interest rates. Neither of these things seem likely to happen. Barring the unexpected, such as a world flu pandemic, the world economic outlook is pretty good. So Calverley thinks we still have a year to go, maybe more.

Talking to people after this Corporal Fraser-esque lecture of gloom, there was a great deal of scepticism. Houses are necessities, unlike tulips or dot.com stocks, one listener told me, so there will always be a demand for them. And since the planning system makes increasing the supply of houses extremely slow, there won't be a sudden bust. That's true, but we have had slow punctures in 1972-77 and 1989-95 when British house prices fell relative to earnings, though the absolute fall in prices was less and shorter. Calverley also notes that a price recovery may take even longer, perhaps 15-20 years.

Before you rush to the estate agents, there are other equally eminent economists who disagree with Calverley. Roger Bootle, a much cited authority, spent most of 2005 forecasting a 20 per cent house price fall, then recanted, saying that cheap loans and the peculiarities of the British market meant that he had been wrong.

What really matters is people's ability to pay the cost of borrowing. Calverley's most worrying chart showed British house prices in relation to earnings since 1960. It shows bubbles in 1972, 1979, 1988 and now. Alarmingly, this bubble is the biggest of the lot, reaching 5.5 times average earnings whereas previous bubbles have only reached 4.5 times earnings. Yet on an ability to pay measure, it is much less troubling. Recent figures from the Alliance and Leicester (LSE: AL.L - news) bank says that the current average cost of debt servicing is 13.8 per cent of household income, half the level in 1990 when interest rates averaged 14.6 per cent and debt servicing cost 25.7 per cent of income. Interest rates have a way to go before this cost is really pushed up. A slowdown seems much more likely than a crash.

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Crowley
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One wonders whether this "one listener" could have been one of our regulars who, being local, may have attended the lecture in person.

You know who I mean. Keeps going on about tulips.

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Ronald Raygun

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Anyone who thinks that property values will fall dramatically lives in Cloud-Cuckoo-Land. I'm getting on a bit now and when I came to this village around 1962 I bought a cottage for under 600. Today these same cottages are fetching well into six figures. What with the average household going down all the time and population figures climbing there is little chance that a commodity based upon supply and demand will show a dramatic fall in value.

Reply to
R.Peffers.

So you think you know better than the chief economist of American Express Bank do you ?

I think you'll find that the house price bubble is based on much more than simple 'supply and demand'. The explosion in cheap and easy credit in recent years has been a major, if not the main, driver of the massive upward movement in prices. That cheap credit is now showing signs of drying up (Bank of Japan sharply cutting back on liquidity, raising rates later this year, end of the carry-trade, ECB and Fed rates rising etc)

Other factors include the record level of debt (£1.2 trillion) UK consumers now hold, increasing unemployment, and the recession in the retail sector as debt levels force consumers to rein in their spending. Not a very healthy environment in which a house price bubble can be maintained is it ?

With credit tightening/credit crunch comes a bursting of asset bubbles of which house prices is the biggest particularly in the UK, US, Ireland, Spain, and Australia.

Reply to
Crowley

Whereas you are right - what tends to be debated here is short-term property price fluctuations. I don't think that anybody doubts that property prices will always go up over a long enough expanse of time but there are still bubbles and crashes that can significantly effect house prices and cause all sorts of short-term but potentially damaging situations such as negative equity.

Reply to
Sam Smith

Round here (SW London), you can tell by the number of cars that people are making their houses more affordable by squeezing more people into them.

Reply to
Troy Steadman

If you mean me, then nope. Warn't me. Too busy....

FoFP

Reply to
M Holmes

I wonder why people were so stupid back then as to be unable to realise that houses were worth 100 times more than what they were paying?

I wonder if people could get so stupid again?

FoFP

Reply to
M Holmes

I assume he has sold his house and moved into rented accomodation, after all if the crash is only 1 year away it would make sense wouldn't it?

Reply to
davidof

WIll be the same as the professor of economics about 2 years ago.High profile story in the Times, HPC 'imminent' but was still living in his own house. And of course, 2 years on, no HPC.

Reply to
Tumbleweed

They werent, they were worth what they paid for them at the time, within a few percent, just like now.

Reply to
Tumbleweed

Not really, owning a house is not simply an investment, and money is not everything if his sole goal was to maximise profit then it may well be a good course of action, most peoples isn't though.

Jim.

Reply to
Jim Ley

Thus if people can believe a house is worth 600 Pounds at one time, they can believe it again.

FoFP

Reply to
M Holmes

Unless he just plain likes the house more than any money he'd make by leaving it.

His book is OK, and well-researched. I liked Shiller's better though.

FoFP

Reply to
M Holmes

And they'll believe it when it is. Not before. And, should you wish to believe your house (assuming you own one) is worth 600 pounds, I'll buy it from you.

Reply to
Tumbleweed

LOL. He can always buy it back again, by paying more than its worth if necessary. Unless the amount of money he'd gain is so small to make it not worth doing...which would make a point about the magnitude of the 'crash' he is expecting.

Reply to
Tumbleweed

Then whats the point of "warning" people there is a HPC imminent?

Reply to
Tumbleweed

Because it still effects _buying_ decisions, and the decisions of people forced to sell (for relocation or whatever), and effects other portions of the economy - what it does not do is mean that everyone who warns of it should immediately sell their house and move into rented accomodation.

Jim.

Reply to
Jim Ley

Of course it does. I think you are forgetting the significance of the word 'crash'. You arent talking a small correction of a few percent surely? You are talking _significant_ (else why use emotive words like 'crash'?), which means many tens to hundreds of thousands of pounds for almost everyone in a house, in London, maybe 250-500k for many many people. For those sums of money, for people that _believed_ it, most would sell, not just a few. If I 'really beluieved' for example, that my house would fall in value by 50% over the next year, I'd be barking mad not to sell, I'd make 6 figures, tax free, in a year.

I'd also be barking mad to buy any house under any realistic circumstance (No one is going to offer their house for sale at 50% off the price other houses are achieving in the area), so thats the buying decision taken care of, just rent, under all circumstances.

Re the selling decision, that seems tricky, as apparently you believe people shouldnt sell unless they have to, which wont be a problem since no one will be buying anyway.

Or do you think, since apparently I must be in line to gain say 100k+ over the next year, I should sell my house now?

Reply to
Tumbleweed

Except of course you need to find a suitable place to live that has enough room for all your belongings is in the same catchment area for your schoolchildren etc. and is available to rent. You then need to also rely on their being suitable houses available for you to buy later.

Most people will have significant mortgages reducing the size of any gain, and not everyone is as money obessed as you, if I had a house I liked to live in, I wouldn't sell it for some profit - I'd not be so likely to find somewhere else equivalent.

Which is why he's warning you - which is what you asked, I just explained why just because he's warning it doesn't mean he has to sell, not everyones prime motivation is financial.

Jim.

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Jim Ley

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