Why UK house price falls and a credit crunch are inevitable.

The warnings continue.

From todays MoneyWeek. Credit crunch, recession, and house price

deflation on the way ?............

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Why UK house price falls are inevitable

19.12.2005

Because of our bearish long-term view for UK property, which we believe to be significantly over-priced at current levels, we have spent the past year wondering about the impact that the new pension rules would have on the property market because of the expected wall of money.

We wondered quietly to ourselves what would cause this wall of money not to arrive, never thinking that Gordon Brown would literally turn off the tap just a few months before D-Day, or should we say, A-Day. Such a reversal so late in the day is, in our view, quite shocking. Its impact on the property market is likely to be bad. Sentiment might deteriorate alarmingly to such an extent for it to be the tipping point.

Just prior to Gordon Brown's statement, the Portman Building Society sent an e-mail on Monday 5th December to intermediaries, it read "With effect from Monday 5th December 2005 The Mortgage Works (part of the Portman Building Society Group) will cease to accept new applications for buy-to-let mortgages on newly built properties." The Portman was reported as saying that they would avoid lending on new properties until "the market forces of supply and demand return to equilibrium". The Portman is the third largest provider of buy-to-let mortgages, so their action is important.

Jim Pickard, who writes the property column for the FT, recently posed the interesting question. Why is there continued optimism, particularly in newspaper headlines, about the UK property market when the current year apparently is set to enter the history books for the lowest number of property sales for 30 years?

The UK's deeply inverted yield curve continues, with 50-year yields still below 4% at a time when short-term rates are 4.5%. Economic weakness arising from a slowdown in consumer spending, based on a faltering property market, encourages us to expect a UK recession next year, if not a global recession. That would not be good news for asset prices such as equities, which remain pressured by the continuing actions of major pension funds looking for more reliable investment opportunities than equities, to cover more appropriately their long-term liabilities.

The key to the puzzle might be the developing credit crunch, which if it continues, will provide the nail in the coffin for the economy.

The Credit Crunch

In the past two weeks we have read the following:

i) County Court Judgements soar by 40%, the Telegraph reported that the number this year was around 864,000 compared to 610,000 last year.

ii) Barclays Bank's credit card business is likely to see profits drop this year for the first time since 1997 on the back of an increase in bad debts.

iii) The Halifax Bank of Scotland (HBOS) have recently adopted a more cautious approach, being more selective in their lending policies. Loan growth has been reduced to single digits from 15-20%.

iv) Barclaycard, Co-operative Bank, Egg and Abbey have agreed to extend the data they provide about customers to the main credit reference agencies such as Experian (this will, for some borrowers, make arranging more credit much more difficult).

v) The one we have already mentioned, Portman Building Society's exit from buy-to-let mortgages on newly built properties.

vi) The loss of a huge number of private pension pots that were set to buy into UK housing from 6th April 2006, technically, not a credit issue, but nonetheless one with a similar effect.

House price inflation is always associated with growing credit facilities and easing lending criteria. House price deflation can be plotted against reducing credit facilities and tightening of lending criteria. One follows the other as sure as night follows day.

By John Robson & Andrew Selsby at RH Asset Management Limited, as published in the Onassis Newsletter, a fortnightly newsletter that gives insight into the investment markets.

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Reply to
Crowley
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Hmmm, thats in direct contradiction to the long article you previously posted 'proving' that a wall of money *wasnt* going to appear from pensions:-)

So if they were wrong on something so fundamental, why would they be right on the rest? Or did you just like their headline?

Reply to
Tumbleweed

Maybe they're right and it was me that was wrong.

It wouldn't be the first time ;-)

Yeah I know...... having my cake and eating it etc......

Reply to
Crowley

I have always found it utterly bewildering the way in which the media report all forms of inflation to be bad, whether it be wages, oil or consumables, except for house prices.

Why is house price inflation always deemed to be such a jolly good thing and very desirable?

Reply to
allan tracy

Bitstring , from the wonderful person allan tracy said

Because it is seen as the increase in the cost/value of an asset you already have. Just like inflation in antiques, fine art, or vintage cars.

It's only increased cost of things you are going to HAVE to buy next week (and mostly consumables like petrol, food, council tax) which is seen as bad.

Reply to
GSV Three Minds in a Can

Or buying a house next week perhaps?

Reply to
allan tracy

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So it's just a transfer of wealth from people who already have houses to those who are going to buy them.

Reply to
Hognoxious

"Crowley" wrote

But if *you* were wrong on that, then why would you be right on the rest? ;-)

Reply to
Tim

You'll have to make your own mind up on that. Caveat emptor (buyer beware) should always apply when it comes to anything financial.

It does appear from all the sqealing from the financial services industry that withdrawal of plans to allow residential property in SIPPs has dealt them and the housing market more of a bodyblow than I thought it would. (Good news for us housing 'bears' :-))

There are increasing factors why I may be proved right on a major correction ahead for house prices however including Rightmoves announcement last week that volumes are down 30%, Hometracks YOY going negative with all the other indices soon to follow, and increasing signs of credit tightening.

Reply to
Crowley

Yup.

And need, in general - so your cost of living is increasing at exactly the same rate as your investment.

But those things can't be classed as "cost of living" costs. You don't need a Van Gogh on your wall, but you do need the wall, and roof, etc.

If you want to realise your investment (ie sell your house), then you probably will need to buy a new house. If you don't want to sell your house then its value is irrelevant (except possibly as security for a loan).

Well obviously some people will be buying a house next week, mostly either FTBers or those moving upmarket - for both such groups high HPI is bad news.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

Nope - it's a transfer of wealth from people who sell more housing than they buy, to people who buy more housing than they sell.

So HPI is bad news for first time buyers and those moving upmarket. It's good news for BTL'ers, beneficiaries of inheritances, and people moving downmarket/abroad. It's neutral for people who have no intention of buying or selling.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

"Andy Pandy" wrote

Did you mean that the other way around?

FTB's buy (that's the 'B' in the name!) much more than they sell (none) - You are saying that "it's a transfer of wealth ... *to* people who buy more housing than they sell." [eg FTB's]

"Andy Pandy" wrote

Many BTL's are similar to FTB's in the comparison of housing "bought" to housing "sold" - both FTB's and many BTL's *buy* more than they sell...

Reply to
Tim

Except when the rise in prices encourages those owners who are not selling to gear up loans against their houses and spend them in the rest of the economy.

FoFP

Reply to
M Holmes

Yes, sorry, wrong way round.

Yes, but a BTL'er will generally have the intention of selling much more housing than they buy at some time in the future. No transfer of wealth occurs until then, of course.

Reply to
Andy Pandy

Well, yes, and I guess with some people the bank increasing their credit card limit or overdraft encourages them to spend more.

Spending of too much borrowed money is bad news...

Reply to
Andy Pandy

In message , Andy Pandy writes

Why? We have people who are putting property into offshore trusts to keep eternally and transfer from one generation to another without any inheritance tax issues. The intention being to generate a permanent income.

Reply to
me

In message , Andy Pandy writes

A wall and a roof? That would've been a palace to us.

Reply to
me

A Hometrack (estate agents organisation) report out tomorrow confirms house prices are falling.................

quote : "A sustained correction in prices for 2006 onwards is now on the horizon, for any first time buyer this is long overdue and welcome news."

House prices have fallen by 4.17% since June 2004

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54 FIRSTRUNG COMMENT: Firstrung provides detail on all the housing market reports through the stats section and the downloads section of the toolbox. Main media sources are awash with articles today on the rise in mortgage lending. Given the fall in recorded prices this could suggest that the majority of this new lending is for re-mortgage purposes.

The figure quoted by Hometrack of a fall in prices of 4.17% since the peak of 2004 is stunning news. However, Hometrack in customary fashion manage to distil this news by claiming a rise in values of 1% for 2006. The evidence that the housing market has turned in 2005 is now surely irrevocable.

Commentators are fond of using the description of a super tanker turning in relation to house prices, this is an apt reference. The correction has been slow to emerge. A sustained correction in prices for 2006 onwards is now on the horizon, for any first time buyer this is long overdue and welcome news.

Average house prices have suffered their first annual fall in 10 years, according to the latest survey by Hometrack, the housing analyst.

It said that house prices across England and Wales fell by 1.29 per cent in 2005. It added that the average price had fallen by 4.17 per cent since the market turned in June last year.

The survey, to be published tomorrow, shows that just three areas in the 58 counties have bucked the national trend over the past 12 months. Central London and the City outperformed all the counties across England and Wales, with prices rising by an average of 1.82 per cent, while West Yorkshire had the next highest rises - albeit of just 0.36 per cent. Northumberland (down by 3.17 per cent) and Avon (down by 3.11 per cent) were among the worst performers.

Of the 54 cities surveyed by Hometrack, 48 have seen annual price falls this year. In Milton Keynes, the worst performer, the average property price fell by 7.2 per cent. It was followed by Lincoln, where the average price fell by six per cent, and Leicester, where prices dipped by 5.26 per cent.

Reply to
Crowley

In message , Crowley writes

I would have thought that anyone who calls themselves a bear is actually involved in the market. What does a housing bear do to benefit from the forecast falling market, (apart from go back to his cave )?

Reply to
Richard Faulkner

"Crowley" wrote

So, asking prices have fallen ("fall in prices") while *sale* prices are predicted to continue increasing ("rise in values ... for 2006").

That just means that more realistic asking prices are being put on houses.

Eh? The figures above show that it is still *rising*, and that is predicted to continue through 2006 ... !!

Reply to
Tim

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