Television licence Fees & SKy TV

The hourly news on BBC3 is a regulatory requirement, I think. The adverts aren't, though. It's been quite annoying during the otherwise excellent Glastonbury coverage.

The 10 o'clock news on BBC1 may also be a regulatory thing - I'm not sure.

The politicians seem to get annoyed whenever the time changes or is threatened to change.

Axel

In message , rob. writes

BBC World is a commercial channel.

It's possible to use Top-Up TV cards in On-Digital boxes.

You can tell that by his posting name.

Lua

Hmm...I didn't realise ownership of a television was necessary in order to retain my connection to the outside world. Here I was thinking that actually *going outside my house* would provide that connection - silly me! ;-)

Here's a thought:-

If you don't like paying a license fee, sell all your TV's and cut down your TV ariel, that way you don't have to pay at all !!!!

The obvious downside is that you become disconected to the outside world but you do save 100+ in license alone.

Sky *do not* relay any channels for the BBC, all they do is include them in the EPG, for a fee.

Are you really as ignorent as your post suggests, orare you a troll?

X-No-Archive: yes In message , Dale Grimsley writes

Not necessary. Stick your TV in a big box together with a UPS and run it from that. When the regulations were changed around 1997 so that it was the premises that were licensed rather than the person, it occurred to someone that those of 'no fixed abode' could not be licensed, and if they were, a premises transferable TV license would be the result, defeating the whole object of the new regs. So a little-known fudge was dreamed up that made TV sets powered from their own internal batteries exempt. AFAIA the UPS wheeze as never been tested in court.

"JF" wrote

But isn't the rule "powered *ONLY* by internal batteries"?? [Double '?' just for you, JF!! ;-) ]

If the UPS is plugged into the mains, then the newly designed TV set (that is, the outer box which also holds the UPS, so that the UPS is "internal" -- not just the TV without the UPS) isn't powered *only* by the UPS battery, is it? If you unplug the UPS from the mains it maybe OK - but how much viewing time would you get, about 20 mins max??

X-No-Archive: yes In message , Tim writes

You miss my point. There's a loophole that's inviting a horse and cart to be driven through it. How and when the batteries are recharged, (most batteries can be recharged by connecting them to a power station) is quite immaterial as is the practicalities of the wheeze.

"JF" wrote

Ah, but you're missing my point.

"JF" wrote

Not really. They probably realise that with the limitations of even modern batteries, the concession isn't very generous anyway.

I very much doubt that he is ;o)

X-No-Archive: yes In message , Tim writes

Yes! Really! It's a loophole and such loopholes invite the horse and cart treatment. If a defendant can demonstrate that he or she has a TV that can function from internal batteries (the regulations say nothing about proprietary cases) then they can operate that TV without a licence. No amount of wriggling can change this. The durability of batteries and the sheer impracticability of the fudge is irrelevant.

"JF" wrote

It's not a loophole, because it must have been the intention of the rulemakers - otherwise they wouldn't have specifically added that rule! But the point is that it's a rule which they're happy to live with,

I doubt that the saved licence fee would be enough to pay a good enough solicitor to make it stick.

Also I thought the wording was that it applied to students with battery powered TVs at their halls or residence, whose parents had a valid licence at the family home.

What about mains powered TVs in caravans on short stay holiday sites with mains hookups?

As an aside it must have been about this time of year, unable to face sitting through a long Wimbledon final on the main TV (The wife had staked her claim to the TV that afternoon), that I dug out my old Casio 2.5" B/W TV. I put a couple of AAs in it and looked for something else to watch. the only viable alternative to tenis was the film "Zulu". I stuck it out on principle, even if I couldn't tell which one was Michael Caine.