Building an ETF portfolio...

Hello all,

I'm constantly reading about experts and investors that suggest putting together an ETF portfolio... one of the things that strikes me right off the bat about this strategy is the large amount of overlap that exists... I mean why SPY and DIA. Seems to me 1 would work just fine. If looking for a bit more risk in a more concentrated portfolio go with DIA, more diversification go with SPY. I hear so many people who talk about ETF portfolio's include both of these, then of course they add their sector specific options, which also more than likely overlap either the SPY or in some cases the MDY (midcap)

More and more I'm comming to the conclusion that a complete portfolio of ETFs are a fools game. Perhaps, to gain exposure to a specific sector or market you feel will do well such as GLD (gold), SLV (silver), IHI (medical devices), EEM (emerging markets), etc. otherwise just pick the stocks yourself.

Am I wrong here? what am I missing

Thoughts and opinoins welcome, Shhhh

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Shhhh
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A complete portfolio of ETFs is no more or less of a fool's game than a complete portfolio of mutual funds. After all, that's all ETFs are -- mutual funds.

That it's harder to "just pick stocks yourself" than you think.

That said, you are correct in noting that someone adding SPY to DIA holdings is fooling themselves if they think they have meaningfully diversified.

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Rich Carreiro

1) Very few people can afford to own enough stocks in large enough quantity to be reasonably diversified and not be paying a huge percentage of their funds towards commissions. Buying raw stock is just not that efficient for the smaller investor. 2) How would one add, for example, 5% to their stock portfolio and not get out of balance if you own individual stocks? Again, if you add a little to each different stock, the commissions are going to eat you alive.

An ETF (or index fund) does all this in one simple efficient package.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III

I think you have the right ideas about ETFs. They are a version of a mutual fund. Buying any collection of funds that all work in the same general part of the market or that significantly overlap is not wise.

There is a commentary from the professionals that the narrow niche ETFs are also probably not good for the average investor.

I am looking at ETFs that deal with indexes for markets in specific countries around the world, mainly Europe and China. China is a dangerous game and I see the ETF as both diversification in that market and letting a professional team do the work that I as a low key average guy cannot possibly do.

Other ETFs I am interested in are some REITs in different regions or kinds of markets and a few industrial index funds that seem to be generating strong returns.

Beyond all that my principal interest is individual stocks with global promise. The dollar is in trouble again and individual stocks based in the U.S. or traded on the American exchanges that show a broad global footprint are my principal interest and are the ones finding their way into my portfolio. I am suprised by how many positions in the portfolio are ETFs, however.

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Charlie

I have had some success with Fidelity Select funds which are actively managed sector mutual funds (e.g. gold, energy, telecommunications, etc.). Equivalent ETFs might offer similar performance at less cost.

Frank

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FranksPlace2

Charlie, before buying a China ETF be sure to check this week's Barron's which had an interesting piece on the two China ETFs ("China Funds' Shell Game," Oct 30 2006). One of the ETFs has some conflicts of interest regarding the ETF promoter and the stocks added to the ETF, which might partially explain the big difference in returns.

-Tad

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Tad Borek

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