All of the information about NitroSell here is totally inaccurate...we do have a US support desk, we do have fixed pricing (we don't have different pricing based on what we think someone can afford - that's absurd), the software is very flexible and accommodate lots of different businesses...and while we do offer caned templates the HTML can be exposed and you can have a completely unique looking site. Obviously whatever research you've done on NitroSell is pretty lacking.
You seem to have completely missed the point of my posts. What they show is some very interesting things I have found while using the Internet to research the best e-commerce solution for RMS.
But before I get into specifics let me get two things straight:
A) I am not angry - if anything I am amused. Its pretty amazing the trail that companies can leave behind on the Internet, especially if they purporting to be something they are not and/or selling something in a false way. In fact its quite fun catching these kinds of companies out :-)
B) I am not a reseller and have never lost any deals to either Kosmos or Nitrosell. I am researching both (and some more besides - more in future posts) and am publishing what I find as I find it. Other people respond to my posts which leads to further information being unearthed. I am not in a hurry and will very thoroughly research these companies before I make my final decision.
Now to respond to the specific issues you raise:
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Are you sure? Why did Alex from Kosmos Central post a request on
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looking for a freelancer to do a make over of his kosmoscentral site? I have already reproduced Alex's post above and it can be still be found by searching for "face lift kosmoscentral" on Google. (Note at the time I first posted this, the result appeared normally, now you have to use the Google cache, [which in time will also disappear]. Therefore I have created a permanent record of this Google cache which can be found at
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This research shows that Kosmoscentral outsource their work to freelancers. Even work on their own site! I personally would be suspect any statements they make claiming to have a large staff. A large staff may may be more aspirational than fact on thier part. A "fake it, till you make it" approach?.
If Alex from Kosmoscentral wants to deny any of this lets see him post his denial here!
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My "resources" (sic) is Google. Are you saying Google is making up stuff about Kosmoscentral and storing it in its database?
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I am not in the least angry, if anything I am amused by the antics of these companies.
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You are not making sense at all here. Kosmos use third party components. That makes you the "middleman to the middleman". I think you should use some other argument when trying to resell Kosmos. To use an analogy, surely sensible people prefer a single modern cable from one source, rather that a chain make from links from different companies, "integrated" together by a third party?
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Aha - interesting, at least you are being honest about what is motivating you :-).
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That is a completely subjective opinion. I've seen examples of both and they both do good quality sites. Only I see more Nitrosell sites than Kosmos! The real question is how much does it cost initially, to maintain and which company has the more solid long term future? Who gives me the fastest implementation time and who delivers more online profits from day one, and as the years go by?
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"web design and corporate logos" certainly seems to be kosmos forte. However the solution I need has this as just one component. But they rely on third parties for the shopping cart and software integration.
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Now this is getting interesting - you're comments are getting pretty wild here!. The implication is Nitrosell are not real human beings? I've seen someone called Todd from Nitrosell post here. I wonder is he really a robot? Come on Todd lets here you post a response to this?
And Nitrosell only responds from "another country"? My research shows Nitrosell has offices in at least four countries. And I've also found a legal US entity called Nitrosell LLC from a simple online search. A quick and easy search show Nitrosell offices in at least Boston and San Diego? Maybe this is all made up?
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This is interesting. My research shows that Nitrosell only sells through RMS dealers. So the only prices that will be given out are through Dealers. But you say you are a dealer, so this must mean Nitrosell wont give you prices. I wonder why?
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comments are kept for Kosmos, while all your negative ones are about Nitrosell. I think its time for you to come clean!
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Again, unlike you, I am not a dealer - I am a retailer looking for the best solution by doing thorough research before I make my final decision. Who really is posting "non sense" (sic)?
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Thank you Mr RMS_King, I will do just that (but no thanks to being a client of yours - you are a little too interested in "big commissions" and display a far too emotional leaning rather that rational one in your reasoning for my liking).
And the REAL and FAIR research I have done to date puts Nitrosell way in the lead. They appear to be a much stronger company from both a commercial and technical view point. They may be two players, but it can be said with certainty at this stage there is only one STONG player.
That said I will continue to do my research in a thorough manner and will not rely on, the "kind suspect verbiage" that your post is 99% full of". (BTW this is me being funny not angry :-D. )
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I'm sure Dan KING the ceo of NWT who currently supplies Kosmos with a link in the chain of their solution would agree - the research goes on :-).
It looks like this thread has not shown any real VALUE for the RMS community and I'm not going to add fuel to the fire. Kosmos has a quality product and so does Nitrosell, and both companies fit in their own niches quite well. By doing their research, the customer will know what's right for them. Sometimes it's Nitrosell and sometimes it's Kosmos. It's our jobs as responsible RMS reps to educate them properly and not to belittle the competition.
I like how Alex stated and Tom copied his comment.
"It looks like this thread has not shown any real VALUE for the RMS community and I'm not going to add fuel to the fire."
This shows real class and from what I've read from the reseller above or was it Nitrosell? The comments above sound desperate have no class, zero tact and shows what type of companies and people Nitrosell deal with. Why go through so much trouble putting another company down? The immaturity and character of Nitrosell as a company is so self evident. Why would someone be so desperate to point out such superficial things? The only reason I still go with them is because they have a large kickback and residual agreement for every customer I bring them. Kosmos has a finder's fee, but nothing like the kickback I get overtime from Nitrosell. I make good money selling their product, but at the same time am I offering the best solution to my clients? Sometimes it's exactly what the client needs (may cost more), and other times greed gets in the way and I feel real bad. But ultimately, lately I've been giving my clients as much information as possible and they can make the final decision. I'm not going to feel bad and have it come back and bite me when my client is selling quadruple the amount from their inititial plan they started with from Nitrosell and all of a sudden their costs are also quadrupled.
Just wait also RMS community - I'm hearing a lot of buzz about RMS 3.0 and it will rock all POS systems!
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