ACH Security

Warning, this is not a Quicken question but I figured this group would be a good source.

I realized that I have a lot of transactions where I have given the vendor permission to deduct the payment from my checking account by ACH (Automated Clearing House), They can pull the correct payment or the balance of my checking account.

I like the convenience but wondered if anyone had any thoughts on how to make this more secure.

Thanks

Reply to
Mr.Jan
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"Mr.Jan" wrote in news:03c7d814-1d74-43ad-990f- snipped-for-privacy@m17g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

It's called trust. Either you trust the payee or you don't. For instance, I keep an eagle eye on Verizon, because I don't really trust them, after repeated problems with their billing. And I recall my permission when they violate my trust until they correct their overbilling.

Reply to
Han

Here's what I do, but I welcome additional advice:

(1) Don't use ACH if a CC is acceptable (2) Don't write a check if a CC is acceptable (3) Use debit card only at bank ATMs - set daily withdrawal limit at a minimum (4) Keep checking account balance at a minimum practical balance (5) Decline overdraft protection (6) Keep checking/savings and CC accounts at separate banks (7) Keep a fraud alert on my checking account

I use ACH only to pay my CC balances, the IRS and one company that charges a fee to bill to a CC. I manually authorize each ACH transaction and the payment amount. I allow automatic charges only to my CC accounts.

I grudgingly write checks only when necessary and never leave any outgoing checks in my mailbox.

Jerry

Reply to
Jerry Boyle

Here's on of mine - don't use a ACH withdrawal if the amount is variable. I don't trust the systems going haywire and deducting a huge amount, or even a billing error. I wish I didn't use them, but I do for a few "stable" deductions, like auto insurance monthly payments and I have a regular (small) payment for my credit card to cover the monthly minimum set as well so I never get slapped with a non-payment fee.

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Andrew

"Andrew" wrote in news:4dfca1c2$0$9086$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net:

I sure hope I am right in considering that overly cautious. Here's what I do. I have many authorized pull transactions. Let's say, my Costco/American Express charge card. When the statement becomes available, I reconcile it. Then I issue a "handwritten check" for the amount due on the payment date. As that day approaches, I make sure there is sufficient money in my bank account to cover (I also have averdraft protection). Come the day of reckoning, so to speak, I monitor what is happening, and if it isn't what I expect, I'll be on the phone in a flash. Happened a couple of months ago, when Chase did NOT pull the money. Turned out that in contrast to Citibank (IIRC) Chase counts a return as a payment, and I didn't owe because returns exceeded payment due (don't ask particulars). Problem solved.

Reply to
Han

Since you've given your vendor permission to dip into your account, there's very little you can do from a security perspective. The interface is between your vendor and the vendor's bank.

Reply to
Robert Neville

Han wrote: :: "Andrew" wrote in :: news:4dfca1c2$0$9086$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net: :: ::: Here's on of mine - don't use a ACH withdrawal if the amount is ::: variable. I don't trust the systems going haywire and deducting a ::: huge amount, or even a billing error. I wish I didn't use them, ::: but I do for a few "stable" deductions, like auto insurance monthly ::: payments and I have a regular (small) payment for my credit card to ::: cover the monthly minimum set as well so I never get slapped with a ::: non-payment fee. :: :: I sure hope I am right in considering that overly cautious. Here's :: what I do. I have many authorized pull transactions. Let's say, my :: Costco/American Express charge card. When the statement becomes :: available, I reconcile it. Then I issue a "handwritten check" for :: the amount due on the payment date. As that day approaches, I make :: sure there is sufficient money in my bank account to cover (I also :: have averdraft protection). Come the day of reckoning, so to speak, :: I monitor what is happening, and if it isn't what I expect, I'll be :: on the phone in a flash. Happened a couple of months ago, when :: Chase did NOT pull the money. Turned out that in contrast to :: Citibank (IIRC) Chase counts a return as a payment, and I didn't owe :: because returns exceeded payment due (don't ask particulars). :: Problem solved. :: :: -- :: Best regards :: Han :: email address is invalid

re/'I sure hope I am right in considering that overly cautious.". Han., you're probably correct! I am probably being overly paranoid. But I've read a few horror stories, so I prefer not to deal with that - although I am sure this can happen no matter if they are 'stable' payments anyway.

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Andrew

"Andrew" wrote in news:4dfe03bd$0$28685$ snipped-for-privacy@cv.net:

Life is a set of compromises . Hope your day is going well :-)

Reply to
Han

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