The meaning of the "c" in investment transaction line.

Have spent 3 hours trying to find the answer to what I expect is a very simple question. Also have not been able to find a topic related to it, so started this one. At the far left of an investment transaction line, such as income or dividend additions, buys or sells, etc. just to the left of the date I see a small box that sometimes has a "c" over it. When I click on this "c" I get a box that also includes an "R". I'm sure I will be embarrassed when I get the answer, but will really appreciate an answer. What is it, and what does it mean, and how can I use it? Thanks for help. Don

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wawiddi
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The "c" = cleared; the "R" = reconciled; space = not cleared. Same meanings as in the "Clr" column in non-investment accounts.

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John Pollard

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wawiddi

Thank you, John. I can take it from there. (And I am embarrassed) Don

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wawiddi

You can't change that code in a cash account if it's a transfer from the investment account. You get a message that you have to change it in the investment account, but there's no such field in the transaction there! Then you can't close the item in the cash account. I consider that a bug.

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Jim T.

"Jim T." wrote

It might be, but it's hard to tell because you didn't supply your Quicken version/year nor what investment account type or investment transaction type you are referring to.

I tested in Q2005 Deluxe R3 and Q2006 Premier R3 with both a "Cash Transferred Out Of Account" and "Withdraw" from a "Brokerage" account; I had no trouble modifying the "Clr" field in the resulting transactions in a checking, savings, or cash account.

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John Pollard

Sorry - I use Quicken premier 2006 R4, but it has always been so in

06P. The transactions are downloaded into an investment account and are classified as BuyX, SellX, DivX, etc. In all thes cases the transaction originates in the investment account. I'm still mad about the change they made in the transaction register, I think it's the pits. JMO.
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Jim T.

"Jim T."

Ok, I did a bit more testing. I see what might be a bug, but I do not get the behaviour you described; possibly because I created new accounts in a Q2006 file, I did not test with accounts converted from an earlier version of Quicken.

In my case, the only account that gave me a problem was a Single Mutual Fund account ... and then *only* if I failed to specify a non-zero value for shares of the security that the fund would hold when I first created the account.

In no case did Quicken prevent me from changing the non-investment account transaction Clr field from space to "c"; but if the transaction was a transfer from a Single Mutual Fund account that had not had non-zero shares of its security specified at account creation, then, if I tried to change a "c" to an "R", I got a message that Quicken "Cannot record transfer. You do not have a position in the destination account". I got that message even when I did have a position in the account - it seemed to matter whether that position was established during account creation.

And even in the above situation, a Quicken reconcile in the non-investment account had no trouble changing the "c" to an "R".

I tried the test with a plain Brokerage account and the problem did not occur: specifically, I entered a BuyX in the investment account, then successfully manually modified the resulting checking account transaction to have an "R" in the "Clr" field.

[There is a "Clr" field equivalent in investment accounts - though it's not so labelled; it's on the leftmost side of the "register" and when you have a transaction selected, it appears as an arrowhead pointing down. Click on the arrowhead and a "c" and "R" (and a space) will appear; clicking one will make the that the "Clr" status for that transaction. But, that won't change the clr status in the other half of a transfer transaction.] [Intuit tried to improve the investment account "register" in Q2006, but they didn't really accomplish their goal. They have acknowledged that they still want to improve it, so I guess it's just a matter of time. But I don't think your problem is a result of the changed user interface for investment accounts.]
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John Pollard

John:

I use 2006 Premier H&B, and utilitze a separate linked Cash account for my investment accounts.

When I get dividends "DivX" paid, the investment account transaction shows a "c," but the linked Cash account does not.

If I try to manually change the downloaded dividend payment, I get the following error message:

"You should make this change from the investment account to avoid losing transaction detail. Click Go to Transfer from the Edit menu."

It's no big deal, since pretending to reconcile, checking the transaction, and choosing "Finish Later," delivers the "c."

It's just a little odd to see transactions without a "c" when they are downloaded via Direct Connect.

Ctrl-Copy reveals posting dates as being accurately recorded, the transactions just don't have a "c" by them.

Bob

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Bob Wang

"Bob Wang" wrote

Thanks. Damn it, I meant to try a linked cash account, then forgot.

I've never used a linked cash account, so I have no easy way to test downloading to one in other versions of Quicken; but I will try to remember this glitch for future reference.

Thanks again for filling me in.

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John Pollard

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