Has Anyone Seen This: Transfer of Inherited IRA

A client inherited an IRA from a parent. Client was receiving MRDs using her life expectancy (Appendix C Table I in Pub 590). Client had the IRA trustee transfer the IRA to a life insurance company for a fixed annuity that pays $X month for life (at least that is what she said). No 1099-R was issued by the trustee making the transfer. This makes sense when you have trustee to trustee transfers of IRAs. There is no reporting requirement as it is not a rollover. The life insurance company made a distribution and issued a 1099-R that shows the distribution as coming from an IRA. So... it appears that the funds were transferred from an IRA to an IRA.

The paperwork from the life insurance company shows the account as being owned by the client. It doesn't even have the word "IRA" in its name let alone the word "inherited".

The only information I can find on moving inherited IRAs is that a trustee to trustee transfer is the proper way to avoid taxation of the distribution. The money in an inherited IRA can be invested in an annuity. However, regardless of the amount of annuity income, the inherited IRA must still disburse an MRD based on the prior year-end IRA balance and the Table 1 life expectancy (as far as I can understand MRDs from Inherited IRAs).

The distribution (it's actually 12 equal monthly payments) is currently larger than what the life expectancy table for an inherited IRA would require as an MRD. But.... if the distribution is a fixed amount for life, some time down the road, the fixed payment will be less than a calculated MRD.

So... is this kosher?

Reply to
Alan
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Reply to
Alan

There were really two pieces to your scenario.

First, inherited IRA. My understanding for inherited IRAs, most of which is from reading Ed Slott's published works, is that for non-spouse inherited IRAs, the wording of the inherited IRA titling is key. And if not followed closely, results in a 'busted' IRA.

Then you ask about the annuity inside the IRA. I'd read (but am not finding the mentally cited article) that when entering RMD age, 70-1/2 or older, that putting the IRA assets into the fixed immediate annuity satisfies the RMD requirements even if the payoff each year is not the precise (or minimum) amount required each year. The level fixed annuitized payouts take precedent.

I don't think my first remark above is in question, it's really the second, which, if I come across the supporting evidence, I'll offer it, if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Reply to
JoeTaxpayer

The taxpayer took an IRA that she inherited (the IRA was in the name of the owner for the benefit of the beneficiary) and did a trustee to trustee transfer to a life insurance company that appears to have turned it into an Individual Retirement Annuity (call it an IRAn). The problem I am having is that everything I have read about IRAn is that they are owner based with very specific rules. Everything I have read about nonspousal inherited IRAs is that you can't treat them as your own; naming the inherited IRA properly is critical; no rollovers are allowed (i.e., if you take a distribution it is taxable); trustee to trustee transfers are allowed but only if transferred into a beneficiary IRA. I have seen traditional IRAs transferred to insurance company individual retirement annuities that conform to the Regulations.

I can't find anything on transferring an inherited IRA to an inherited IRAn. I can't see how an inherited IRAn (if such a thing exists) can meet the rules for Individual Retirement Annuities.

This is what led me to post my query as to whether anyone else has ever seen an inherited IRA get transferred into an inherited individual retirement annuity.

Reply to
Alan

I think the IRA is 'busted' and the gal has issuers. At the very least, the point regarding inherited account titling has been ignored. Very bad.

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JoeTaxpayer

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