Qualified Opportunity Zone Investment

A friend's father passed away and she is selling the inherited house which was used as a rental property. She has 2 siblings, so my round numbers are gross, and 1/3 flows to her.

The house was bought for $250K and sold for $1.9M. With the process taking so long, the appraisal was done effective the date of death, January '21, and $1.2M was the number. The sale is happening now, and given the time that's passed, I suggested that a knowledgeable appraiser should be able to give a number that's legitimate for 6 months after death.

Friend got back to me with more details. Some great estate planning was done in the late 80's, shifting ownership to an irrevocable trust. Negating any step up in basis, and instead, I was given a spreadsheet showing a basis of about $100K.

TLDR; She then told me that the lawyer's office, the ones who've managed the trust these years, is suggesting an investment in a QOZ (Qualified Opportunity Zone). She was left thinking that one could take the tax due and instead of paying the IRS, could invest it in this. I admitted that I hadn't heard of such a thing and started searching.

(1) - It seems whoever explained it to her wasn't clear. The invested amount is the entire gain. Which stands to reason. (2) - One really needs to hold this real estate investment for 10 years to benefit from it. (3) - IRS makes no mention, but the actual investment firms' web sites state that investors must be accredited. $200K annual income.

Number 3 would render this all moot, but I'd like to learn. I know what I know, but in 40+ years of reading and writing about personal finance, I've never run into this type of investment. If I'm even close with what I've understood, she'd be making a $600K (her share of profit) investment in this specific type of real estate deal to avoid the (15%) Federal Cap Gain tax of $90K. She just retired, and this would represent about 1/3 of her retirement assets.

Unlike the 401(k) and IRA type questions, I'm thinking I may not get a response on this one. This is a strange unfortunate situation.

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JoeTaxpayer
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Here are a couple of IRS references.

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That is the investment company's rule. The law and the IRS do not make that restriction.

That's because it was created by the new tax law that was passed at the end of 2017 (the "TCJA").

It's not clear what your question is. You didn't actually ask a question.

Bob Sandler

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Bob Sandler

Perhaps it should have been "have any members had a good experience with such an investment?" But, your comments were great, and much appreciated.

To my friend, I'll plan on saying we might find a company to do business with, but such an investment isn't my recommendation. It feels like letting a tax tail wag the investment dog. Again, thank-you.

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JoeTaxpayer

According to JoeTaxpayer snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net:

There are multiple criteria for being an accredited investor, one of which is having $1M net worth other than your primary residence. If the $600K is 1/3 of her assets, $1.8M would make her accredited.

Having said that, doing a deal solely to avoid tax is invariably a bad idea. If the investment makes sense otherwise, she should consider it, and the tax advantage is an extra benefit. From what you've said it does not sound like tying up 1/3 of her retirement money for a decade in a single illiquid asset with uncertain prospects would be a good idea.

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John Levine

Just because a trust is irrevocable doesn't necessarily mean no step up in basis. These are several criteria for a trust being a grantor trust

- being irrevocable is one, but there are others as well.

I have seen lawyers who don't know what they are doing, see someone with money so they come up with something they think will justify them charging a large fee - even though they have no clue what it's all about. If that happened in this case, there may still be hope.

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Stuart O. Bronstein

Not directly relevant, but I have a friend who was able to retire in his early 40's but to avoid taxes did some kind of 1031 exchange and ended up with all his assets in a single real estate property (an apartment complex). He had some sort of natural disaster and a dispute with the insurance company and to make a long story short, in his late 50's he ended up bankrupt. Don't let taxes wag the investment dog. (The story had a less-than-disasterous ending; he went back to school and got a certificate in data science and he's now in his early 60's and making $150K+stock working for a startup in Silicon Valley. Still, that's a lousy age to start saving for retirement.)

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Roger Fitzsimmons

I searched a bit, having a decent idea of the use of one type of trust vs the other. For example, I had my MIL put everything into a revocable trust a few years before her passing. On her death, it was as simple as sending the broker a copy of the death certificate. A week or so later, I saw the basis adjusted to the data of death.

Also, I understand the irrevocable was popular back then, if only for the fact hat with a sub-$1M estate exemption ($600K in '98 IIRC) one wanted the gift to the trust to be a completed transaction to be used as the annual gift limit. I set up one for my daughter then, '98, to own the insurance policy and gifts, given the low exemption.

In this case, if you have anything else to share, I'd appreciate it. My searches didn't find anything to support the basis increase. As the numbers show, the difference, in April, can be quite a bit for this woman and her siblings.

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JoeTaxpayer

"Grantor trusts" are defined by sections 671 through 679 of the Tax Code. You can find them here:

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When a trust qualifies as a grantor trust, even if it is irrevocable it is treated, for income tax purposes, as if its owned by the grantor - its essentially ignored for income tax purposes.

Life insurance trusts are irrevocable grantor trusts, but the beneficiaries are considered the grantors. That's why they usually only have insurance policies and not other assets - they don't want to have any taxable income.

One particular kind of irrevocable grantor trust, that is used by the very wealthy, is called an "intentionally defective" trust. This is a trust that is irrevocable, but is considered to be a grantor trust. So the grantor can transfer property to his beneficiaries - and even sell property to his beneficiaries, without any income tax consequences. And the sale means it's not a gift, so there are no gift tax consequences either. So property is transferred from one generation to the next completely tax free.

But my specific point in your case is that this is a very complex area of the law, many lawyers don't know what they are doing, and that there is a chance (though probably small) that the lawyer who created your trust made a mistake that might have made it a grantor trust.

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Stuart O. Bronstein

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