Re: what is magnetic media

Magnetic media means a floppy disk (including the 3.5" hard-cased

> floppies), or 9T-tape.  A wire/modem transfer has no magnetic medium and is > therefore excluded.  This might include the older 5.25" floppies, but > usually doesn't include the oldest 8" floppies unless it specifically says > so > > If they wanted "Internet or phone" transmissions, they would have said "by > electronic means" instead of "on magnetic media." > > This language actually KILLS "e-file" that we've had since 1990 (for 1989 > returns in pilot program areas). >

But there's been (for about 10 years IIRC) a similar requirement for large partnerships in IRC 6011(e) paragraph 2, and that doesn't seem to have prevented e-filing in these cases. The applicable regulations seem to be Treasury Regulations, Subchapter F, Sec.

301.6011-3 which in paragraph d(1) define magnetic media as follows "Magnetic media. The term magnetic media means any magnetic media permitted under applicable regulations, revenue procedures, or publications. These generally include magnetic tape, tape cartridge, and diskette, as well as other media (such as electronic filing) specifically permitted under the applicable regulations, procedures, or publications." It's hard to imagine that the IRS will interpret this new amendment any differently.

In light of this (together with what appears to heve been the congress's intent), I'd suspect that the courts (if asked) would read the refernce to magnetic media in paragraph 2 & (the new) paragraph 3 as shorthand for the "magnetic media or in other machine-readable form" of paragraph 1.

It seems to me that the intent here is to _significantly_ broaden the IRS's ability to require non-papaer returns. [previously, the secretary couldn't ever require them for returns for individuals, estates or trusts. Nor was he allowed to require anyone filing fewer than 250 returns per year to file on magnetic media].

Will.

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bill-deja
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TR noted, but 6011(e)(1) says "... filed on magnetic media or in other machine-readable form." The Secretary is well within his authority to define the "other machine-readable form[s]."

However, this added (e)(3) did NOT say "or other machine-readable form" and it's not clear from the statute that these other forms are inclusive therein of the term "magnetic media." It appears that in (e)(1), they are an alternative, not an inclusion; an alternative that has NOT been extended to (e)(3).

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D. Stussy

Seems to me that the way it's used in §6011(e)(2), it is being used as shorthand for ?magnetic media, etc.,? which is the heading of the subsection.

On the other hand the term is also used alone in §6724, though it refers to §6011(e)(2) but not (e)(1).

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Stuart A. Bronstein

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