£50 note withdrawal

undoubtedly

and I'm sure that if you (genuinely) gave me one of each I could tell which was which

but if you gave me a random note and claimed it was from BoS I have absolutely no way of knowing if you are telling the truth or not

tim

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Its English law too

Indeed they do

It would be a wise shop assistant who explained they had a duty to retain the forged note and would the customer please leave his name and address for the police to check with him on where he obtained it.

Actually as a customer if it happened to me I would insist on the police being called just in case the assistant was pulling a scam.

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AlanG

Major Scott has been up before the judge accused of non-payment of debts repeatedly for his whole life? OK, if he says so.

All of Scotland has also been hauled into court too? Perhaps a slight exageration.

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Rob

I wish I could find the exact wording but in a case where someone refused payment in Scotland in notes because they were not Legal Tender the judge said that while he was correct and no notes are Legal Tender there, it was "what we commonly call money" and found against him. Conclusion: case law confirmed that Notes are NOT Legal Tender in Scotland, BUT the world does NOT have to grind to a halt as a result.

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Rob

There was a case I read about before where he did say "It's what we call money - take it" But he also said that it was NOT Legal Tender.

Just because it is legal to trade with it does not make it "Legal Tender"

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Rob

I remember a previous incarnation of this argument. Someone said the BoE or Royal Mint definition was rubbish and quoted the US Treasury or Federal Reserve website. I think in US law it has a slightly different definition. Of course the fact that we are not in the US was lost on them.

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Rob

He probably uses some stupid pedantic and ignored form of speed limits too. Nearly everyone drives at 40mph in built up areas, therefore that is the legal speed limit. :-)

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Rob

I just ignore the limits altogether. I will decide what speed is safe. This may be under or over the limit.

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Major Scott

That all rather depends on what you mean by "found against". I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the judge awarded costs against the defendant, but the defendant will still lose the case in the sense that he will have to pay the amount owed.

That is certainly true.

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Jon Ribbens

It's about acceptability to all the parties involved in a transaction. But it does not bestow a legal precedent on other transactions for the same course of action to be enforced.

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®i©ardo

Indeed. That's what I said.

That is an option, but probably overkill. Everything is on cctv anyway.

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Portsmouth Rider

Is that a wise shop assistant or merely one who is telling a porky?

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Anthony R. Gold

My thoughts exactly! I would never allow some shop assistant to confiscate my money without a policeman being called!

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Ophelia

There are a number of different offences made by the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 including making, passing and possessing a counterfeit of a currency note, but refusing one and slinging it back at the person who offered it is not one of them.

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Anthony R. Gold

Fine but I wouldn't allow shop assistant to decide and to confiscate my money and demand my name and address ! I would await a police officer to decide!

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Ophelia

GENERAL Scott? How many stars do you see on my shoulder sir?!?

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Major Scott

I'd be forced to pay in English notes? Don't be stupid. The plumber would be told to grow up.

My Lloyds TSB doesn't check any notes!

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Major Scott

Quite. Far from having a duty to retain the notes, I don't see that s/he even has a right to do that and may even, thereby, commit an offence of possession.

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Anthony R. Gold

CCTV is unlikely to prove anything if the shop assistant denies taking the note as a forgery.

I would certainly demand a receipt from the manager, and follow up to ensure that the note really was handed in and was a forgery. There may be no scam involved, but the shop staff may have been mistaken about it being a forgery. I'll certainly not write off 50 without complete assurance that it was definitely necessary.

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Cynic

No it isn't, Bank of England notes are not legal tender in Scotland and coins aren't issued by the Bank of England.

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mcp

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