Compulsary Pension Payments

their paymasters the unions are talking of compulsory *employer* contributions - as usual for socialists, make somebody else pay.

Phil

Have you read their secret plans to cover the country in nuclear power plants?

you only need a few, they aren't windmills you know.

Put them where the existing ones are that are due to expire and re-use the infrastructure ?

Phil

Bitstring , from the wonderful person mogga said

And this is worse than runaway global warming how, exactly?

In message , mogga writes

Good, I hope they've got the balls to do it. Its the only viable answer to the impending energy crisis.

No it's not.

It might be the easiest, but it's not the only.

tim

Nuclear power IS the only presently known solution.

The only better solution will be nuclear fusion, but that's not only still "nuclear" but is a long way off.

China have mini-reactors which look very interesting.

I'm not against it if its the only way to ensure we have enough electricity.

I didn't say it was.

It is certainly better than having no electricity. :)

They could put the entire prison population on treadmills. Tough on energy generation, tough on the causes of energy generation.

There is no reason whatsoever that we can't exist on a combination of using less whilst developing 'green' sources until the fossil fuels run out.

The wolrd existed before elecrticity, It isn't a fundamental human need, it just makes life more comfortable.

I did say it wasn't going to be easy.

tim

Bitstring , from the wonderful person "tim (moved to sweden)" said

The problem isn't fossil fuels running out. We (and the rest of the planet) have giga-tons of coal, and oil shale, and suchlike. The problem is that if we burn it, we're gonna choke on the CO2 and roast in the resulting temperature rise..

In message , "tim (moved to sweden)" writes

As I said, the only VIABLE solution. If by some mega miracle, we had "green" sources for say 30% of electricity demand, that is still but a tiny fraction of overall energy usage for transport, heating etc.

They tried oil shale in the 1980s after the oil shocks. They couldn't economically extract it and gave up. Plus the energy in to energy out ratio is rotten.

Coal might last 50 years if it takes up the shortfall in oil demand and is inefficiently converted to oil.

Roland.

True, but at 100 Dollars per barrel, the economics might look a bit different.

Aye, there's the rub.

Just because we didn't develop fusion in the last 50 years doesn't mean we won't develop it in the next 50.

The Swiss are smart putting space blankets on their glaciers. What we need is a parasol for the planet. Cutting out 1% of incoming wuld be a start. Now when was the Planetary Society testing their space sail deployment?

FoFP