Expenses as benefit on P11D ?

Oct 07, 2004 10 Replies

During the year 2002-03 I, apparently, claimed around £240 of expenses from my employer. This consisted of payments for hotels for overnight stays and 23p a mile for travelling to customers. All of these expenses were incurred in performance of my duties.



For some reason, the IR has decided that these are benefits that my employer at the time included on my P11D form (which I never had). I can't see how this can be....



Surely, either they've made a mistake or my employer should not have put this on the P11D.



For some reason, the IR has decided that these are benefits that my employer at the time included on my P11D form (which I never had). I can't see how this can be....

Surely, either they've made a mistake or my employer should not have put this on the P11D.

Agreed. Though IIRC the employer has to come to some agreement with the IR about these type of expenses, so they dont occur on a P11. Can you just cancel them out by claiming the exact equivalent in expenditure, in fact the same items?

This happens to my husband every year - his employer insists that the payments have to be noted on the P11D. Fortunately it is a simple matter to write to the Inland |Revenue and inform them that the xxx that appears on the P11D for the tax year 2xxx/2xxx was not a benefit but an expense incurred wholly in the course of doing your job.

Every year we send a letter along these lines to the Inland Revenue and so far (in 6 years) there has been no problem and any tax charged has been refunded very quickly.

Hope that helps

L

They haven't made a mistake and the employer *should* have put this on the P11D (although most either have a dispensation, or submit a 198ICTA form (yeah yeah Ronald whatever!) or simply don't bother :) ).

Either way as other posters have said it will be reversed and apart from wasting everyone's time no one will be any the worse off.

Yes, it should be included on the P11D. You need to claim this £240 as an expense against your income.

Still don't see why the IR are being dull and not realising that this is expenses occured in doing my job...

How would the IR would know this?

For some reason, the IR has decided that these are benefits that my employer at the time included on my P11D form (which I never had). I can't see how this can be....

Surely, either they've made a mistake or my employer should not have put this on the P11D. ___________________________________________

Remember that you should be able to claim the mileage at 40p/mile for the first 10000 miles, and 25p/mile thereafter. I was told I could.

D.

The system is very simple (although stupid). You have to declare all payemnts you received (income). Then you claim back things which you incurred (expenses). This is clearly stated on the self assessment forms. You don't need to write to IR, just claim it back on your tax return.

I was paid at 24p/mile, so I was told to claim at 16p/mile for the first

10000 miles, 1p/mile thereafter in box 1.32 (Expenses you incurred in doing your job: Travel and subsistence costs) in the Employment supplementary form.

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