Grrrr - why do they make it so fecking difficult.....

One idea could be to open a free webmail account like gmail and send an email to the account with your logon details, so that should you forget the details they are always just a few clicks away.

Reply to
Adrian Boliston
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.....have tried to log onto two different bank and savings accounts this morning and have been blocked because I couldn't remember the four million hurdles you have to go thru' to log on. Why can't they just make it easier? Egg for example, is a breeze and Morgan Stanley is just you account number and then password. I sometimes feel they do over kill to convince the scepticle public that they are doing *everything* to stop people accessing their accounts - well, I'm not convinced and if the likes of Egg and Morgan Stanley can make it very easy - why can't everyone else?

Reply to
D.A.L.

Or in an Excel password protected file. Easier to copy and paste those long numbers too.

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stuart noble

"stuart noble" wrote

... and very easy to "crack" using freely available crackers from the internet. Highly un-secure!!

Reply to
Tim

If you choose a good password, and select strong encryption, it isn't that easy.

In any case, anyone who can get hold of the excel file could put a keylogger on your machine and get the passwords that way a lot easier.

Reply to
Jonathan Bryce

Or you could write the logon details on a postcard, post it to yourself and when it arrives stick it on the wall next to your PC. It'd be about as secure.

Reply to
Andy Lord

So are you saying there is a chance that someone at gmail will read through people's inbox looking for possible logon details.

If that is the case you could always disguise those details. Eg lets say you have an account with egg, then entitle the email "poached" then make the email look like a recipe idea, with your password hidden as part of a made up recipe.

Reply to
Adrian Boliston

ING Direct's new login process is rather frustrating...

Reply to
Reece Bythell

It's designed that way so that you never give _all_ the details in a single log in.

This level of security is probably not necessary if you are the only one using your own computer from a 'safe environment' (which includes taking precautions about not being hacked). If you are using someone else's computer to log in it may be a different matter.

People who are not particularly computer literate may not realise that they need to delete the local cache and/or cookie or else someone else may be able to obtain the details. Browsers that are automatically configured to remember usernames and passwords in web pages don't help!.

By only supply partial and different information on every log-in the person who picks up your details from a previous log-in would not be able to obtain access to your account.

Unfortunately the more difficult it is to remember all the extra information or to know what is the 2nd, 8th and 5th letter of password etc. the more likely that people will write down the information.

Reply to
Alan

I sometimes wonder how these keyloggers avoid detection from anyone other than a basic user. How do they startup without showing on the startup list on msconfig? How do they avoid showing if someone does an "alt ctrl del" and looks at the process list?

Reply to
Adrian Boliston

Just passowrd protect a Word or Excell file with all the details on

Reply to
Pet Lover

I use a text file encrypted with PGP - works a treat :)

Reply to
Trust No One

Why can't they just make it easier?

Yes the egg one is great and it has the money manager which lists my other accounts such as abbey national current account and will even log me into it with a single click.

Reply to
alfi

Not dificult, write it as a dll and hook calls to it into an existing valid process running on the machine. It wont show as a new process because it is running as part of an existing one and it wont show in msconfig for the same reason.

Reply to
alfi

Shame they screwed their customers by reducing their creditcard cashback from 1% to 0.1%...

Reply to
Steve Pearce

It takes about 15 seconds to request their new blue egg card and get the same limit plus 6 months 0% and 0.5% cashback.

Reply to
Jacob Rosse

Go to Control Panel -> Administritive Tools -> Services. They are all running, how many people do you think knew that? Not that tricky to put a service in there.

Also, can put yourself in the registry under HKLM Windows Run or something. How many people look there? That is even easier and not many people look there.

And even if you are in the process list, simply call yourself scvhost.exe or something else already there and nobody will notice.

And Excel files take ages to crack unless you only have a 4 letter password or something.

Reply to
scott

But why should I have to do that? It's like those BS saving accounts that suddenly have their interest rate sropped to almost zero. They clearly hope the majority will not notice and just continue.

By the time the blue card came out I'd already moved my business to Accucard (at 0.8% cashback). I just don't like the way Egg acted on this and I will never use them again for anything.

Reply to
Steve Pearce

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