Investors should steer clear of buying UK properties for the next few years says HSBC Bank

From the Financial Times....................

Investors warned to avoid property

By Jim Pickard,Property Correspondent

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February 4 2006 02:00 Investors should steer clear of buying UK properties for the next few years, the head of real estate at HSBC Private Bank has warned.

Willie Gething, managing director of property at the organisation, said the market - with the exception of London - looked like a bad bet, in terms of net yields and likely price increases.

HSBC Private Bank is one of the three biggest private client advisers, vying with the likes of Coutts and Citigroup to offer investment advice to the well-heeled. It has more than 4,500 clients in Britain.

The group has started advising clients against investment in property, both residential and commercial, in most of the UK. Instead, said Mr Gething, they should be allocating their money to international indirect property funds, which offer higher returns and a wider spread of risk.

There were perfectly valid personal reasons for buying a UK property, such as emotional attachment or finding somewhere to live, said Charles Ellingworth, the group's marketing director. "But for pure investors it is now very hard to justify at current yields," he said.

Net yields - the annual rental return on a building - are in some parts of the country as low as 3 per cent, lower than the cost of borrowing.

Thousands of investors are, nevertheless, still taking on big debts to build up large property portfolios. "People in Britain are still out there buying their flats on 98 per cent leverage, which is fine in the current interest rate environment, but if interest rates move up their investment becomes negative," said Mr Gething. "These buy-to-let investors are still fighting last year's war."

The group predicted house prices, excluding London, would be no higher in five years time. However, prices in central London, were due for a recovery after treading water for the past few years.

As for commercial property, Mr Gething predicted that prices would continue to rise this year because of the "weight of money" trying to get into the market. Yet this was not sustainable in the long-term.

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Crowley
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"Crowley" wrote

Crowley, what's happened to your "crash" then? That article describes flat house prices for a while....

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Tim

Come on.....you wouldn't expect the "managing director of property" at HSBC to start talking about a house price crash would you ? There'd be a bloodbath and he'd get the blame.

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Crowley

"Crowley" wrote

If you don't agree with the article, then why did you post it here?

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Tim

To show how fair, open-minded, and unbiased I am ;-)

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Crowley

No it doesn't. It says that prices will be no higher in five years: that could be anywhere from today's prices down to... nothing.

Mark

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mmaker

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Oh, YES it does!

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... OK ... [Static prices are "no higher".]

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Try reading the rest of the article.

E.g. the bit saying: "People in Britain are still out there buying their flats on 98 per cent leverage, which is fine in the current interest rate environment, but if interest rates move up their investment becomes negative..."

If it is "fine in the current interest rate environment", and only "becomes negative" if interest rates move up, then prices must be more-ore-less *static*.

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Tim

No it doesn't. Though since you clearly aren't interested in a rational discussion, I'm not sure that there's any point in posting.

Zero is no 'no higher' either. Why do you keep claiming that they said anything about prices being static?

Who cares, when they quite plainly say that prices will be 'no higher' in five years? If they meant 'prices will be static for five years', why didn't they say so?

You're the one claiming that they said something they didn't. They were very precise in what they said.

And, in any case, with the rest of the world raising interest rates and the price of oil exploding, how long do you really think it will be before the Bank of England have to do the same?

Mark

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mmaker

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Why don't you ever read anything properly?

I said they *described* flat prices. And they *did* - their decription applies perfectly well to flat prices.

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"Precise" in the sense that they weren't accurate at all?!!

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Tim

Make up your minds! Are you talking about flat prices or house prices?

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Ronald Raygun

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Tim

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