Trivia: Dogged solicitors

> > "Troy Steadman" wrote > >> > >> House prices are falling. What is meant by "the principles which apply > >> for inheritance tax purposes"? > > If their "excellent" solicitors didn't explain it to them at the time, > in layman's terms, they were ripped off and should demand a partial > refund of those £170ph.

I can't let you get away with that jibe Ronald, remember I use to audit solicitors and I know a good solicitor when I see one:

Q: "With which unwinnable case will the small firm of J. R. Jones of Ealing in SW London be forever gloriously and inextricably linked?"

...and ours is a good one.

Choosing a solicitor (or an accountant) is like ordering a tiger for your zoo. You want one that snarls and hisses and prowls and attacks and has sharp teeth. You don't want a meek tiger who says (Nogood O'Boyo style) "The rules say we've lost so we've lost".

You want one who says: "We never lose, we never give up, there's always something that can be done".

Our solicitor (Gummersalls in Epsom) took on our conveyancing at a fixed rate (£495 + VAT IIRC) back in 1999 . It soon became obvious that the whole thing was a dog's breakfast, there were four titles and a small defect in one of them which had been missed by two previous sets of solicitors. Time and again I said I'd release him from the fixed rate as the problems unravelled, but months later after days of work in came the bill: £495 + VAT.

And with it a letter: "For my own satisfaction I am going to pursue this case even though I suspect it is hopeless..." And pursue it he did, keeping us informed of the progress, until he ran up against the final brick wall.

Beat that!

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Troy Steadman
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Thanks Troy - always good to know of good people, and in this case they're reasonably close to me. Is it a one man band or is the whole partnership good ?

Daytona

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Daytona

I only know the two bits I dealt with, Conveyancing and Family/IHT were good. The Convyancing partner is still there, I would expect the ethos of a good firm to ensure all parts of it were up to scratch, they all suffer if somebody makes a mistake.

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Troy Steadman

I agree - like-minded people generally attract like-minded people.

More info. here for anyone that stumbles across this in future -

Daytona

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Daytona

Gumersalls (one "m") has 5 partners, 2 consultants and 2 associates. The associates probably only work odd days as and when. Each specialises in a narrow field and they can punch very hard.

Take the answer to the trivia question. These people chose a much smaller practice with young solicitors in the days when Imran Khan was a cricketer and nobody had ever heard of their son.

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Troy Steadman

I've been instructed by Gumersalls recently - their family dept. Nice, efficient firm to deal with.

Geoff

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GB

Most solicitors *had* (I'm not saying *have*) heaps of blue files lying all over the place stacked up all over the floor. If one of them falls over you'd never get them back into sequence. I know things are better in most practices *now* but:

These four Titles were interesting to us, each showed a different period of the house and its surroundings. Three years after completion I happened to be in Epsom and casually went into Gumersalls to ask if I could get photocopies of the Title Deeds.

They knew who I was, knew what I wanted, they hadn't archived their files in Grimsby or Lee-on-Solent etc, they made the common-sense decision that they might as well give me the obsolete originals, I walked out with them and have had them framed.

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Troy Steadman

If you think it's good to be left in the dark, fair enough. Me? I'd want to know at least the bones of what it was they did for me, and not be treated like a moron who in their view doesn't need to know.

Thanks, I do like to be reminded of Mrs Packletide.

"There's always something we can get you to pay us to do", more like!

Although in your case they carried on for their own satisfaction "on the house", the fact that they did hit a brick wall in the end should not be forgotten. Pity they weren't clever enough to realise early on that they were bound to hit it.

One hopes this personal vendetta was not fought at the expense of other clients' interests being given lower priority.

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Ronald Raygun

Ronald I am quite sure they told us over and over again what was involved and I am quite sure we tried our best to understand it, if I understand now it is purely because of your help.

We had no choice. Only one option was available to us.

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Troy Steadman

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