Penalty for not completing tax return - could be good news??

I have received a 100GBP fine for non-return of my 2002-3 tax return. I never received it in the first place and IR say it must have gone to my old address and that is up to me to tell them I've moved (the fine came to my new address though?!). Having never dealt with IR before (I'm strictly PAYE no bonuses/perks), I assumed I only needed to tell my employer to update their records - apparently not! IR say there is a good chance of winning an appeal but as an aside to this, it seems I may be due a rebate on my personal pension conts as I am a few grand over the 40pc threshold. I have to fill in my 2002-3 form but should I also ask to fill in one for the last four years that I have been paying in and only receiving basic rate relief on my PP? I pay 206GBP net a month into my PP and have earnt around 5-6000 over the 40pc threshold since taking it out. Is it worth the hassle of trying to fill in a four year old tax return? How long does it take them to cough up should I be due some cash (not getting hopes up!) Thanks for your help

Reply to
backy
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Most certainly. Although you might just be able to avoid form-filling by simply writing to your local IR tax office, setting out the payments you made (photocopies of pension statements are probably useful to enclose), and asking for your back tax liabilities to be recalculated. Don't forget to ask for the interest on the back tax, too. *grin* Hey, it's worth a go! They might still ask you to fill in Tax Returns anyway, but you might save yourself some trouble.

Usually not all that long. At this time of year, probably about 4 weeks after assessment, in my neck of the woods.

Jon

Reply to
Jon S Green

The penalty for a late filing of an SA return is *not* 100, but the lower of 100 and the outstanding tax at 31 January 2004 (for a 2002-03 Return). If there is a repayment due to you for 2002-03, then the penalty will be reduced to Nil.

Reply to
Doug Ramage

I received fine letters and phone calls from the IR for a few years.

In my case the probleem was that I had not returned a Tax Return to a specific Tax office that had not sent me one in the first place. ie. I get a return from Cardiff and return it - they send me a statement and I pay it. Then I get a call from Debt Recovery or a letter from Glasgow (who took me of job in the December after I had got the statement.) To say that I had not returned my form to Glasgow. This was sorted out, they cancelled the fine - I got a return from Glasgow for the next year and sent it back. Got statement, paid etc. Then get fined for not sending in a return... to CROYDON!!!!!! not sure where they came into it. Eventually got it all sorted out and no more calls/letters this year.

The problem was that instead of being using my NI number (which I only have one of) they used a UID instead, of which I had three. All seems OK for now anyway.

Reply to
rob.

I presume you mean UTR which stands for Unique Taxpayer Reference, so unique you have three, the system seems a total mess with one hand using NI numbers and the other UTRs. Assuming the return has the correct UTR on you should be able to return it to any tax office (although its a good idea to get a reciept if you return it to anywhere but the issuing office as I have know the inland revenue loose such returns transfering them - generally 31st January submissions of clients returns when they haven't provided the information until the 29th January and which we have processed and then hand delivered to the nearest tax office)

Reply to
Chris

UTR, that's the one. I think I only have one now. But they were Unique, no two were the same. I always returned the forms by the September deadline, to the issuing office. By the time the Debt Recovery (or whatever the dept is called) phoned up I had the statement/calculation, request for payment, and a receipt for payment in my hand. Each time they were able to clear everything up very quickly - It just took two years to find everything that needed clearing up.

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rob.

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