When will the Blair, Brown, Geldof gang learn?

Jun 07, 2005 54 Replies

When will the Blair, Brown, Geldof gang learn that that money given to corrupt wasters will be wasted.



Billions has been wasted in Africa on white elephants and arms. The countries in Africa will fail to learn the value of money if they keep getting their debts cancelled.



If they don't have enough money then they can borrow some more, and if they default on payments they should be subjected to special terms like individuals in the UK. At least by following some rules they should learn to value prudence.



Why should I get up at 07:30 228 days a year and leave the house for



11.5 hours each time to pay for Africans to sit in the shade? The African countries have been independent long enough to take responsibility for their condition, anything else is neo-colonialism.

I quite agree. They should take unilateral action and tell their debtors (ie us) that we can stick their repayments up our arse.

Ian

The only solution to this is for them to agree to let us, or someone, take over the reins of rule again before we let them have any more money or debt cancellation. I'm not saying we were perfect but we were a lot better than they are. Bring back colonialism. Mind you, this wouldn't cure the AIDS problem.

Rob Graham

They are sovereign nations, they are, and always have been able to tell us to stick our repayments up our arse. Now why dont they? Clearing third world debts might in the short term ease the problems of some nations, but it offers nothing more then a short term solution. The problems of Africa are African, they are not the fault of Europe, America or anyone else. Our attitude to Africa does not help the situation, our restrictive trade practices penalise agricultural producers, yet we preach that these nations should open their own markets. The problems of Africa will not be solved by ending third world debt, by increasing aid, or by 'fair trade', it will only be solved by Africa themselves, our efforts to help have been many ways conterproductive, and we seem to have learnt little.

Gaz

I seem to remember pictures of starving, dying children on the TV or in the newspapers every day as well .. so the demand for financial aid would continue as well, as it did when we had the reigns before.

I don't think there should be a problem with Africa 'physically' feeding itself as there is a lot of productive land. There is just a sector of their populous, who never see any of the food (probably a growing sector at this point), apparently irrespective of who holds the reigns of power.

Whoosh. The obvious solution is simply to get up later, on fewer days of the year, for much less than 11.5 hours each.

Why oh why do people choose to put up with such hellish commutes?

They could not get their act together in the thousands of years that they lived in Africa unconcerned with the civilizations developing elsewhere to the north and east. Do not expect them to now. bliar is just throwing British taxpayers' money down the drain.

R

I imagine out of fear as to how those creditors would act - namely cutting off their aid. Debt relief has to be approved by the debtors if its going to work. In the rich part of the world we don't need Africa's money - not that desperately.

Exactly. "Free trade" does of course refer only to ourselves if we can get away with it. At the same time, we're always going to be doing most of our trade with our closest neighbours, so its not as if Africa is going to suddenly dominate if we truly liberalised the markets.

We need both. You're right that there's no point giving any help to Africa if its ggoing straighht into Mugabe's pocket or funding those nasty civil wars they seem enamoured with. The people in Darfur are desperately poor, but its the Janjaweed thats causing them to die in such high numbers. Africa's governments need to eradicated the coruption and nepotism thats plagued them if this is toy work in the long term.

Thats part of the solution. the other part is alleviating the abject poverty which has driven the corruption and nepotism. Africa fights over scant resources because they are scant - give everyone a chance of existing and the need will be removed - that just leaves human greed to tackle.

Ian

Dave, the Ignorant one, if Africa is not doing well it is because of the West, especially the US, supporting Dictators in Africa, so that the Western multinationals such as Debeers continue looting gold, diamond and so on.

Here is one example of Rwanda. Please read and educate yourself, knowledge will set you free from imperialism!

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Double-think yet again: the latter is at least as important as the former, and is within our control. But will do anything about it ?

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Africa and Iraq's debt

In December and January former Secretary of the Treasury James Baker went on an international lobbying tour to try to get countries holding Iraq's debt to forgive up to two-thirds of it.

It was hard not to notice that neither Baker nor any other imperialist official ever went on a world tour to have sub-Saharan Africa's $300 billion debt forgiven.

When examining the differences between the two situations, it is important to note that U.S. imperialism's relationship to both Iraq and all of Africa is that of oppressor to oppressed. Europe and the United States pillaged and plundered Africa's natural and human resources for centuries. The United States has embargoed and bombed Iraq into misery and is now occupying Iraq. More than a cancellation of debt, imperialism owes large reparations to both Iraq and Africa.

The main difference between Iraq's $116 billion debt and sub-Saharan Africa's $300 billion debt is that U.S. imperialism's big competitors - France, Germany, Russia and Japan - hold most of Iraq's debts. Africa's main lenders are the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. The United States is the biggest shareholder in both those institutions.

So Washington resists debt cancellation for Africa. Now U.S. imperialism feels that it owns Iraq, although it is having some problems getting the Iraqis to submit to this concept. But the Pentagon conquered Iraq's army and the United States is now there.

So Washington would want as little money as possible flowing out of Iraq to France or Germany.

Baker was able to bribe and threaten these countries that unless they write off a big chunk of the debt, a U.S.-controlled Iraq could cancel it. If they write down the debt, then French or German corporations might get a share of the U.S.-controlled reconstruction contracts in Iraq.

Meanwhile Africa is imprisoned by its debt. Last year President George W. Bush, with big publicity, promised an anti-AIDS initiative, a five-year, $15 billion plan to help Africa and the Caribbean. The simple math on a $300 billion debt shows that African countries will pay many, many times more in interest than the promised $15 billion in aid over five years. But it turns out that even this $15 billion was an empty promise.

Now even this small amount of money will be postponed for several years. At the same time Washington is cutting by two-thirds its funds to the United Nations to fight AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria, all major threats in Africa.

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How Imperialism Impoverishes Africa THE RECENT decision by the United Nations (UN) to send troops to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is the latest in a series of interventions on the continent of Africa, ostensibly to quell ethnic conflicts and avert a "humanitarian nightmare".

Keith Pattenden In the case of DRC they have left it late since the current civil war has been raging for years and has already claimed up to five million lives. The recent massacre of 400 people in Bunia took place in full view of 700 UN troops who did nothing to stop it.

The conflict in DRC is a war for territory and thereby for access to the massive mineral riches of this impoverished, yet potentially wealthy, country.

It is conducted by various militia forces, mostly the degenerated remnants of 'radical' guerrilla armies which fought to overthrow the US-backed puppet regime of Mobuto - who fled the country in 1995. Neighbouring states linked to former colonial powers are involved, each laying claim to its own share of the spoils.

Neo-colonialism WHY IS it that the West, having turned a blind eye to these events for almost a decade has only now decided to intervene?

Western governments are concerned that the spiralling conflicts will interfere with the supply of minerals like diamonds, cobalt, coltan, etc, as well as destabilising the surrounding states.

This is typical of the post-independence relationship between the imperialist countries and the nominally independent former colonies.

After world war two the European powers faced with revolution by the colonial masses - the struggle for national and social liberation - had been forced to negotiate settlements with nationalist movements.

Where possible, moderate, pro-capitalist leaders had been installed to head off the more radical elements in the movement. Where this strategy failed, they resorted to conscious destabilisation often fomenting ethnic conflict or military coups to get the kind of pliant leaders who would not threaten Western interests.

Throughout the period of direct colonial rule, Africa had been prevented from developing their own industries, making them almost totally dependent on imports of Western consumer goods. At the same time the African states relied on revenue from raw materials and agricultural exports to fund their domestic economies.

The prices of both imports and exports were determined by the world markets which were dominated by the industrialised nations. Very rapidly, huge deficits accumulated.

The 'debt' burden WORKING WITHIN the capitalist system, it was only possible to bridge the gap by taking out huge loans from those same Western nations who also dictated the interest rates and repayment levels.

The neo-colonial states were locked into a spiralling crisis of ballooning fictitious debt. Rather than stopping the debt repayments the easier option for governments was to unload the burden onto their own people.

The ruling elite resorted to state repression to stay in power. While spending on health, education and public services was slashed in line with the IMF programmes, military and police budgets were increased, with Western arms and security firms providing the hardware.

As the African economies fell into deeper crisis, more stringent conditions were placed on aid programmes and debt restructuring.

Capitalist economics THE IMF and World Bank, the chief agents of imperialism's financial dominance, forced them to open up their domestic markets to more and more foreign competition. They were also forced to sell of their state-owned sectors, with Western companies first in the queue.

The effects of these mass privatisation have been devastating. In Angola for instance, water was once provided as a free service. Now it has to be paid for. Those who can't afford to pay are disconnected. This has led to an increase in dysentery, cholera and other water-born diseases as people now have to resort to contaminated sources.

The UN has estimated that $35 billion a year - only 3.5% of the incomes of the world's 200 richest individuals - is sufficient to ensure safe drinking water, adequate sanitation, primary healthcare and basic education in Africa.

Most African countries have to export food to gain hard currency. Malawi, whose people are facing starvation, was even advised by the World Bank to sell off its surplus grain stocks as part of its debt restructuring.

While Africa is forced to allow untrammelled access to its markets, the West continues to maintain tariffs on imports, while subsidising its agricultural production. African producers are always at a disadvantage in the so-called 'free market'.

The resulting increase in poverty, lowering of life expectancy and collapse in infrastructure is taking society backwards.

What future? AT THE G8 summit in France, aid to Africa was trumpeted, amongst others, by Tony Blair. But underpinning their pious speeches, is how best to protect the interests of the imperialist nations.

The whole history of post-independence Africa is an object lesson in the impossibility of building stable, democratic, developed economies on the basis of capitalism. Only the working class fighting behind the banner of socialism can unite the oppressed masses in a struggle to end the centuries of super-exploitation and dictatorship.

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Global domination THE TOP 200 corporations (41% US-based) account for 27.5% of world economic activity (but employ only 0.78% of the world's workforce).

Mark Desgranges Of the 100 largest economies in the world, 51 are corporations; only 49 are countries (based on a comparison of corporate sales and country GDPs).

By controlling much of production and trade these giant corporations can push down the value of raw materials and products produced in poorer countries, destroying local manufacturing and markets.

Africa now accounts for just 1% of world economic output and 2% of world trade. Many African countries have economies smaller than a town in Britain of 60,000 people.

Multinationals also determine prices in Western markets. Thus the price of coffee exported from producer countries accounts for less than 7% of the eventual cost of coffee to Western consumers.

Neo-liberal policies MUCH OF aid and 'debt relief' is inextricably linked to allowing US and Western companies to expand their trade into previously restricted local markets.

Even the IMF admit that the Clinton/Bush Africa Growth and Opportunity Act, instead of providing African countries preferential trade, actually costs Africa more than $500 million a year.

External debt in sub-Saharan Africa has increased 400% since the IMF/World Bank introduced 'External Debt Programmes'. African countries spend $14.5 billion each year repaying debt.

The US government has allocated $40 billion for the 'war on terror' but has only spent $1 billion on a Heavily Indebted Poor Countries initiative.

And while preaching the virtues of free market capitalism Bush has ensured that US farmers receive huge subsidies, thus undermining local farming production. Annual subsidies to Western farmers amounts to $350 billion compared to an annual aid budget to Africa from the G8 countries of $13 billion.

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Feed the multinationals THE POP entrepreneur and 'Band Aid' charity organiser, Sir Bob Geldof, has praised George Bush's pledge to generously fund an anti-AIDS campaign in Africa.

Some 28 million Africans are HIV positive and two million died from the disease last year. However, it seems that one-third of Bush's £15 billion pledge will fund campaigns promoting sexual abstinence, rather than family planning, in accordance with his Republican Christian funda-mentalist backers.

Moreover, the US administration supports the highly profitable, pharmaceutical multinationals (top ten US drug makers made $37 billion profits in 2001) whose retroviral drugs such as Fluconazole (costing $500-$1,000 a month) for treating HIV/AIDS are beyond the pockets of poor countries and most Africans - 180 million of whom live on less than $1 a day.

When the South African government attempted to import cheaper generic versions of these drugs the multinationals banded together in a court action in 2001 (later abandoned) to stop their import.

Even now the US insists that any poor country seeking a waiver on a multinational drug patent must take their case to the US-dominated World Trade Organisation.

As I said, we weren't perfect, just better. And if you take Zimbabwe as an example of Africa physically feeding itself, it did while the whites did the farming (even under Mugabe). Then Mugabe chucked them out - simply because they were whites - leaving native Zimbabweans to do the farming, something they knew not the first thing about, let alone could get off their butts to do. Result - starvation.

Rob

Funny how the debt was made on our behalf by the Jewish International Monetary Fund.

One wonders why African's parents choose to have children that number in two digits. Being so tolerant of other cultures, I can only conclude that they have good reason for it, in their own terms, and the starvation that logically follows is part of that culture. Perhaps we should leave well alone instead of imposing our imperialistic and monocultural ideas.

Largely, they dont refuse payment, because they dont want their credit rating to be downgraded, ie they want to continue to be able to borrow.

This is plainly not true. The growth of the Pacific Ring, India, and now China show this to be entirely incorrect. If Africa has things to sell at a good price we will buy, except when our Governments slap big duty taxes on them.

I suspect this is the only way that Africa will grow, our present actions are not assisting that. Bush is trying (I know you dont like him, but those in the no about third world aid actually speak well of him, Bono and Geldof have both spoke highly of his policies towards Africa), by making all aid dependent on meeting strict social criteria in regards to democratising, freedom of speech etc etc, so far only Madagasca has reached this standards and is able to take from the 4.5 billion dollar pot.

Africas resources are not scant, many many areas are resource rich.

Gaz

Most if not all agrerian pre-industrial and semi industrial societies have large nuumbers of offspring, on the assumption that most would not reach adulthood. It was the same here in the UK....

Gaz

Something to eat when the next famine hits town?

Nevertheless, if we increased Africa's global trade by even 1% then this woudl exceed the totals of cancelling debt and what's proposed to be sent as the latest tranche of aid, and would do so in a way that helps Africans become self-sufficient rather than dependent on aid. Who's to say that this wouldn't be achieved by the removal of tarrifs and subsidies on EU and US argcultural goods and textiles?

Save Africa: Tell a Farmer to Shovel it!

FoFP

In the UK and much of Western Europe most of the children died to diseases and frailty not due to malnutrition. Cases of famine were few and the response of the survivors was to cultivate and conserve more, not have larger families. In Africa it appears that Africans choose not to take this as a lesson to be learnt, suggesting a cultural inclinations that guarantees famine however much aid is supplied.

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