Using EAN barcodes

I am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.
I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any
"gotchas" I should look out for.
I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?
I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.
Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback.
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Dear Gerd, EAN13 is standard barcode, which use 13 digits = 12 Code_digits + 1 Control_Summ_digit. If you will use EAN13, you can use all 13 digits and barcode-srift for this.
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I tried with a 12 and 13 digit item numbers but the number is not printed in the barcode.

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Gerd,
Is it a requirement that you use EAN? If not, then the bar code format makes no difference on YOUR in-store labels. Manufacturer's requirements are different.
Your bar code format selection criteria is;
1) The size of the label you want to print on, 2) The number of digits in the ILC, 3) Whether you use letters and/or special characters in the ILC 4) What your bar code scanner can read
Try the Code 128B or 3 of 9 for the most compatibility, but not necessarily the most efficient or smallest printed.
For more info about bar code technology , read the Wiki http://tinyurl.com/otgd5
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am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Thanks for your reply, Jeff.
We start selling some of our products to a national supermarket chain and they require EAN13 barcodes on the price labels and the item code has to be integrated in the barcode. The barcode prints correctly on the label, I just can't get the "human readable information" (i.e. the item number) to print.
I downloaded a barcode label application from the internet for the time being but this is just a work around. Ultimately I would like to setup all those products in a new database in RMS and use our current price labels with the new barcode.
I sure am surprised that RMS does not automatically include the item number if a EAN barcode is selected.
By the way the link seems to be wrong as the article I pulled up does not have anything to do with barcodes.
am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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If your doing weigh scale then the scale system should be able to handle the UPC label making. If not we maybe able to help with our GWARE Advance and external printer technology. Contact us at snipped-for-privacy@step2000.net. We also have a RMS import tool to allow tight integration between the applications.
www.genesis-pos.com Weigh Scale Software


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Gerd,
I assume you are trying to create a label using RMS' built-in Label Designer.
You need to add whatever info you require to the label format. If you have added the ILC, its probably a margin or field sizing issue. Try modifying both. As a test, just put them in the middle of the label and see what prints. Make sure the
Either post your label template to the newsgroup here or tell us what size label you want to print and what info you want on the label.
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You must be using Outlook Express/Windows Mail or some other type of newsgroup reader to see and download the file attachment(s). If you are not using a reader, follow the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader" under the MS Retail Management System on the right.
http://tinyurl.com/75bgz =====================================================
am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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A word of warning.
If you are contemplating printing these GS1 barcodes for your customers then you will need to make sure they are printed correctly. Using another code type other than EAN will mean that they are not printed to GS1 standards and may well be rejected or simply not work with your customers. this tutorial may help you understand this a bit more. There is also a link inside the tutorial for the GS1 standards.
http://www.gripon.com.au/?gripon=tutorial_doineedabarcode
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Even if you put the ILC field on your label if the object box is too small( too short or too narrow both could stop it from showing)
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Thank you all for your information and feedback.
Currently I use the build-in label designer. I basically tried all the various label formats that come with RMS. I removed all the fields but the barcode and the ILC. I made the barcode high and wide enough to fill the entire label to avoid any margin errors. And there are no other fields that could cause any overlays.
I tried with 12 and 13-digit ILCs and barcodes set to EAN13 and UPCA. The barcode always prints correctly and the ILC prints with all digits wherever I put it on the label. However, for EAN13 barcodes the ILC has to be "embedded" in the barcode, either underneath or above.
I also did not find any edit mask I could use for the ILC to be printed underneath the barcode.
And as Ces pointed out the labels have to be GS1 compliant.
am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Gerd,
I doubt that the RMS Label Designer will fit you needs as a manufacturer. It's a very simple program to do labels without a lot of options.
Look at specialized labeling software that supports your printer.
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You must be using Outlook Express/Windows Mail or some other type of newsgroup reader to see and download the file attachment(s). If you are not using a reader, follow the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader" under the MS Retail Management System on the right.
http://tinyurl.com/75bgz =====================================================
am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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That's what I already did. I currently evaluate a few professional label printing applications. The print just fine and my scanner can read the labels without problems.
Some of those applications even interface with an SQL server, but all I need to get started is to get my list of items into an Excel. All applications support excel as the data source as well.
My point with RMS is that if they support items using an EAN barcode and I put the barcode field on a label it should also print the "human readable" numbers or allow me to format the ILC using an edit mask (that I can do the formatting myself).
In any case thanks for all your suggestions and information.
am using SO 2.0 SP1. I need to setup some products with EAN13 barcode <BR>format. We are contemplating to use GS1 registered barcodes.<BR><BR>I was wondering if anybody is using EAN barcodes and if there are any <BR>"gotchas" I should look out for.<BR><BR>I would probably use a 12-digit product number, which would be good enough <BR>for our purpose. Or is there any advantage to use a 13-digit number?<BR><BR>I also tried to print some EAN13 labels but did not find a template that <BR>prints the item code right underneath the barcode, kind of embedded in the <BR>barcode. Is that a special template that need to be used? I check on <BR>customer source but there are no price label templates at all. If possible I <BR>would like to print them on my laser printer right out of RMS.<BR><BR>Thanks in advance for any comments or feedback. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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