XP and/or Quickbooks Permissions Problem!

I have a c drive disk from a failed Vista machine containing Quickbooks 2008. That machine will not boot at all. The owner of the Vista machine needs to extract the Quickbooks data file(s).
I mounted his Vista drive as a slave in my XP SP3 machine, and I did a windows explorer search of *.qbw files on that drive. It found said files in drive:\Users\Public\Documents\Intuit. I did a 'copy-paste' of the files from the search result display to a working folder on my XP C drive. It seemed to work okay.
I installed QB 2008 on my XP SP3 machine and tried to use it to access the qbw file I had copied to my drive. I got an error message saying that I probably lack proper permissions to do read/writes on this file. Also, when I use Windows Explorer to highlight the copied qbw file on my drive, Explorer CRASHES!
I then tried to do a straight copy-paste of the qbw files from the Vista drive to my machine, using Windows Explorer. It wouldn't let me access the Intuit folder on the Vista machine. It says I don't have proper permissions.
How can I overcome this calamity? I have tried everything I can think of. I need to extract these qbw files.
Thanks
Jethro
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Jethro wrote:

First, make sure that you have installed all updates for QB2008. Make sure you can open a sample file with the program to run out any problems with QB.
Can you access any other file on that failed disk? Or does opening any other file from that disk cause explorer to crash?
Also, check the attributes of the file to make sure that it is not read-only. that will prevent you from opening the file but it should not cause the program to crash.
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wrote:

I did both

yes
no
They were read only which I changed of course.
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On 5/4/2011 4:21 AM, Jethro wrote:

This is a Windows protection scheme problem almost certainly, not QB. I've never even seen a Vista machine yet so don't know anything at all about it; I'd suggest a search of the MSDN site or posting in a pertinent OS-related group or forum.
Just a thought; will QB open the file on the Vista drive directly by any chance?
If got (exceedingly) lucky there, you then might be able to do a "Save As" on the local drive...I'd be surprised if it works, but then again...
There's all kinds of security (should I say "crap"? :) ) embedded into Windows beginning from NT and every incarnation has only gotten worse (better? :)). While needed for obvious reasons, MS is, as per usual, terribly arcane in implementation and documentation is, of course, somewhat limited on how to defeat the stuff even for perfectly good and legal reasons...
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OK
Thanks
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On 5/4/2011 12:53 PM, Jethro wrote:

Hope it helps/works...be interesting to know conclusion...
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I tried disabling MS's 'dep' for windows explorer. The problem is gone for now.
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On 5/4/2011 12:50 PM, Jethro wrote: ...

OK, good (altho I don't recognize what 'dep' is otomh)...
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Data Execution Prevention (see Control Panel>system>advanced>........)
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On 5/4/2011 1:39 PM, Jethro wrote:

Oh, yeah...forgotten about that...
Any luck on the "Take Ownership" front, or was it rendered unnecessary by the above?
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I haven't tried it yet. Removing windows explorer from DEP will stop the crash of windows explorer, but only temporarily. Every little while, windows explorer is activated for dep again and I have to remove it again to stop the crash. That's not good.
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wrote:

I have tried disabling all file & folder sharing. I have tried taking ownership of the folder containing the Quickbooks files. Nothing helps. Windows Explorer still crashes - at least until I remove Windows Explorer from the dep option. Then no crash for a while until it returns because dep seems to return to its default state. I am in a state of confusion to say the least. No idea what to try.
BTW I am using XP SP3 Pro. The original QB files came from the VISTA drive that was in the machine that ceased to run.
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On 5/5/2011 6:32 AM, Jethro wrote: ...

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No real help here; sorry...
Only other thought I might have would be perhaps any installed anti-virus software is getting in the way? Or there's something on one (or both) system drives?
The MSDN KB article didn't allow you to take ownership and move the file; then remove the foreign drive and access it from the XP box on the XP drive?
If not, I'd go back to searching MSDN and other support forums -- I found the previous link by doing a search for "access Vista drive from XP" -- quite a number of similar instances of a trashed Vista system folks trying to access from alternate systems showed up. I took the MSDN link as the best first shot; didn't really look into the "what if that doesn't work; what do I do now?" questions...
If the file is truly valuable, there's becomes a the point when it's time for a commercial recovery service; if it's not so valuable as all that, then maybe it's a lesson learned on backup.
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Jethro wrote:

You should not have to make all of these changes to get access to that file. When I had Vista on my personal laptop I had no problems moving files between the vista laptop and my XP work machine. File sharing was on and as long as I remembered to turn on the XP machine first, the vista machine could see the XP machine without any problems. I've never heard of Dep before so mine is certainly turned on.
Are you running using an Administrator type of account?
Have you tried copying the file to a different computer to see if that computer also crashes?
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On 5/5/2011 7:14 AM, Laura wrote: ...

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His problem is he no longer _has_ the Vista machine; only the drive w/ the other user's protections...
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dpb wrote:

That should not matter once he copies the file to his hard drive. User protection should only apply to the XP machine not the machine the file came from.
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On 5/5/2011 12:34 PM, Laura wrote: ...

Indeed; as noted in another thread I had kinda' whiffed on the fact he had gotten a copy off the Vista drive and was concentrated on the thought he was having trouble doing that...
If, indeed, the file is causing such symptoms on a local drive it would seem the problem is with it or w/ QB (and I've no experience w/ any recent version of QB; I quit updating years and years ago (like 10))
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On 5/5/2011 6:32 AM, Jethro wrote: ...

One last thing I found -- apparently Linux and friends pays no attention to MS protections -- a bootable CD says you can then get to the drive and copy to local thumb drive or elsewhere...
<http://www.knoppix.net/
I can't seem to find the actual page/support forum that mentioned this again at the moment, sorry...
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On 5/5/11 4:32 AM, Jethro wrote:

If dep settings are changing and you aren't doing it, then it is past time to do a low level format on the drive, run drive diagnostics and install the O/S from an original CD. My guess is 99.9% you have malware on that drive and 0.1% a hardware failure.
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