How handle "savings" in Q99?

I have been doing something very similar to Dick Weaver - and his explaination about 6 yrs ago helped solidify what I was doing. I track monthly expenses separately from periodic expenses - easier for me. Let's focus on periodic expenses (Christmas gifts, car insurance, house insurance, etc). These are big hits at defined times - I know that March and September are car insurance months, May is house insurance, and December is Christmas month, etc. In this case, I add up my total periodic expenses and divide by 12 to come up with a monthly amount needed to save in order to have that savings cover all the periodic expenses for the year. I set that amount up to be automatically sent to a savings account each month. When one of the periodic expenses comes due, I transfer from savings to checking the amount of the bill and pay it. I know I have the $$ in savings to pay each and every periodic expense.

Words of warning - I work on a January to December basis, paid monthly. Say you have a $2000 car insurance bill due on February, but your monthly savings amount only averages $500. You obviously won't have $2000 (only $1000) in February. In a case like this, you may need to have some cash in savings the first year to cover this shortfall. The nice thing about this is that at the end of the year, you still have your same amount of savings - ready to fund your early shortfall needs - you saved for and spent all the $$ added to the account throughout the year. Alternately, try to move some of the large, early bills to later in the year if possible. Additionally, unless you don't have expenses at the end of the year, may mean you should shift your January to December basis to some other months - but in most cases Christmas costs and House Taxes take a good chunk of December periodic expenses.

A spreadsheet is great to track this. My initial concept came from a finance book called: "Uncommon Cents" by Lynn G Robbins - Been doing this since I read the book back in 1994. It has some nice charts that are easily transfered to a spreadsheet to give you the monthly expense layout and average along with a monthly expected balance in the savings account to ensure it doesn't go negative during the year.

- Ron

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Ronald Pierce
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Sounds to me like you are doing exactly the opposite of Dick Weaver's recommendation. In Dick's scheme, one month you will run into a zero balance situation. In your scenario, it does not happen.

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Mike B

is this "savings account" a real one.... or a "virtual" one within Quicken?

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me

Excellent explanation!!

Thanks so much!

I will print out and read and comment a bit later

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me

I will get this book and read it!

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me

Not really - (Dick - correct me if I am wrong!) I think that Dick looks to write the check out for the bill as the money accumulates - so the bill is effectively paid early - the $$ is removed from the account in Quicken, but he doesn't necessarily send in the check that has bene written. In my way, I don't pre-write the check, but I can guarantee that the money is in the account. I actually use a separate physical savings account to store this $$ in so it can't actually be spent. No additional savings are stored in this account (usually!) - so I know what I have in that account and I know I can pay the bills out of it (actually transferring the $$ to checking as needed).

I go so far as making sure I always transfer the $$ each month, even if I have to just transfer some back right away. That is - If I normally transfer $200 to savings each month, but have a $100 bill to pay that month - I do two transfers - $200 to savings and $100 to checking. More transactions but better tracking. This way I can generate a transaction report at the end of the year and ensure I matched what I planned.

- Ron

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Ronald Pierce

This is a separate physical savings account. It could be done with a savings goal or no other account (if you are "good" and not spend your extra $$ you accumulate). I prefer the separate account to ease the view at the expense of a few electronic transfers.

- Ron

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Ronald Pierce

My wife and I both enjoyed it - it is light reading and is based on some of Ben Franklin's "life strategies". The concepts made sense to us.

- Ron

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Ronald Pierce

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